Router IP Problems

June 3, 2010 at 05:21:35
Specs: Windows 7, 2 GB DDR II
Hello, i recently bought a new router and i thought it would be better then my old modem that wasnt compactible with windows 7 (btw im new with windows 7 too) so after i bought it and installed i noticed that my IP changes, and i couldn't host a Garry's Mod server normally without the router using its default LAN IP (10.0.0.138) I contacted my ISP alot of times, but they didnt help since they were surprised even more then me.
I already went to address 10.138 (which leads to my routers web-config page, there i go to WAN, Clicked on edit on an existing PPPoE connection, ticked V on "Use static IP", entered desired IP, and then saved & rebooted the router (from web-page there was an option, if that matters somehow) After the reboot the router had no internet connection at all, only LAN light was blinking (active), Power light was on, DSL light was on too, but Internet light (above power) was off.
Okay i changed it back. then i went to LAN section changed my LAN IP to like 192.20.186.74, saved, went back to WAN, changed to 192.20.186.x, saved & rebooted (btw, when rebooting router in web page it reboots only section you select, if u reboot from LAN section it will apply only these changes) so i saved & rebooted them both, after that it still didnt work!!
in ipconfig /all command i see this:
IPv4:10.0.0.1 <Preffered>
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 10.0.0.138
DHCP Server: 10.0.0.138
No matter how much i change on my routers settings.
Then i also tryed this: go to my control panel, Network & Sharing Center, Change Adapters settings option, then i got window with my LAN connection there, i right click, properties, then on IPv4 i select properties, change IP to:
192.20.186.84 (just random IP)
Subnet mask: one click on it and it changes to automaticly, sometimes 255.255.0.0, 255.255.255.0, 255.0.0.0, etc.
Default Gateway: here i got a problem, i go to routers settings, check in WAN > PPPoE edit > Default Router's Gateway: 89.139.160.1
and i use this, after that i use Primary DNS: 10.0.0.138 ( or ISP's default: 194.90.1.5 )
and then save & close, after a few mins my Router disconnects from internet. IP doesn't changes. Then i put everything to like it was.
Any suggestions? i just want a static IP and i want to host Gmod server with internet IP!! (p.s. i forwarded ports for Half-Life 2 Steam & Half-Life 2 Steam Server, and i host the server in SRCDS program)
Edit: after i exit the window of IPv4 window, Windows Network diagnostics opens up and detects problems, the only problem it finds & fixes is: The Default Gateway is not avalivable for the IP or something like that.

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#1
June 3, 2010 at 07:22:34
I am not sure how to be gentle with this but you clearly have no idea what you are doing.

You need to read and follow the routers manual.

You do not assign a random static ip to anything least of all the wan interface of the router unless your ISP provided you with one.

If you wish to host games consider putting the game servers in the DMZ.

Start by reading the manual and getting the required wan setup information from your isp.


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#2
June 3, 2010 at 07:23:45
I already went to address 10.138 (which leads to my routers web-config page, there i go to WAN, Clicked on edit on an existing PPPoE connection, ticked V on "Use static IP", entered desired IP, and then saved & rebooted the router (from web-page there was an option, if that matters somehow) After the reboot the router had no internet connection at all, only LAN light was blinking (active), Power light was on, DSL light was on too, but Internet light (above power) was off.

What type of service are you getting from your provider. Does yours come with a static IP, or is it supplied by their DHCP server? Confirm your account details with your ISP and then setup the router accordingly.

Okay i changed it back. then i went to LAN section changed my LAN IP to like 192.20.186.74, saved, went back to WAN, changed to 192.20.186.x, saved & rebooted (btw, when rebooting router in web page it reboots only section you select, if u reboot from LAN section it will apply only these changes) so i saved & rebooted them both, after that it still didnt work!!

Ok, that's a public IP address you're using. First of all, you shouldn't be using it internally on the LAN side. Internally you should use a private subnet. There are three to choose from:
Class A private:
10.0.0.0
Class B private:
172.16.0.0
Class C private:
192.168.0.0

Most SOHO Routers use the Class C 192.168.0.0 for the LAN side.

As for the external (WAN) side of your router, again, confirm your account information with your provider and enter the appropriate information in there. You can't just pick numbers to use there, you have to use what is assigned to you if your account comes with a Static IP. If you get your IP from your providers DHCP server, then you just set it to that.

At this point in time here's what I recommend you do:

1) Get the manual/setup guide for your router and keep it handy. Then, reset the router to factory defaults. Info on how to do it should be in the guide/manual. If it's not, the usual procedure is to press, and hold, the 'reset' button for 10 seconds and then allow a minute for the router to reboot.

Confirm the router has been reset to factory defaults

2) Call your provider. Confirm your account details. Setup router's WAN (external) side according to the info you get from your provider.


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#3
June 3, 2010 at 08:10:08
Well, thats why i went here from the FIRST place.
I called my ISP like 10 times yesterday, i remember once the woman even said "just go to network connections, right click on Local Area Connection, Properties, Then click on IPv4, properties, and choose an IP, Use the main DNS as 10.0.0.138, Subnet mask should be automaticly selected, and for Default Gateway enter 10.0.0.138"
Can my ISP be even MORE retarted please?
After i told her it doesnt changes IP she was like "huh how, that shouldnt do that". Wow sometimes i even wonder, did people REALLY study at school or they just got accepted to their jobs by paying around 500,000$ to the employer?

Edit:
I get my IP from their DHCP Server i guess since the DHCP IP is same as my LAN IP (by CMD, IPconfig)
And how do i DMZ my own IP so people can join my server? i just did entered in LAN > IPv4 settings my static IP, 10.0.0.1, now in DMZ i put this IP?
p.s. how do i change the IP displayed in server? i still get 10.0.0.138, altough i already port-forwarded Half-Life 2 Steam Server..


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#4
June 3, 2010 at 10:02:22
It would appear she was talking about your pc being connected to the internet directly. Did you tell her you were working on a router?

If you do a web search on hosting game servers there are lots of router configuration how tos on the internet.

This does require a basic understanding of routing and how to configure your router. Presently it appears there is confusion concerning what ip range to use internally [lan] and externally [wan]


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#5
June 3, 2010 at 10:17:08
Yea well when the call just started i told her that i got a new router in exchange for my old windows 7 not-compatible Modem..
Well i just wanna change my WAN IP but is it possible without calling my ISP?
I already changed my LAN IP after 2 days ( a few hours ago )
but now i wanna change my WAN IP to static one, and then somehow make the server use my internet IP rather then LAN :)
Edit: HEH, guess what, after i changed my LAN IP, the DHCP just canceled itself!

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138


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#6
June 3, 2010 at 10:47:02
exchange a new router for a modem? You do understand these are very different devices? Some routers have builtin modems. Is this what you have for a new router?

"DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No"
You did a static ip assignment so of course you are not using dhcp.

"now i wanna change my WAN IP to static one"
You are missing fundimental concepts concerning the internet and tcp/ip. Your ISP assigns you ip either by dhcp or by you paying for one or more static ips. You can not willy nilly assign a public static ip to your router wan interface.

Changing the local lan on the router is a 60 second job. It appears to me from what you write that you are still confused between private and public ip. It also appears you are trying to assign your public ip to your lan. The ip ranges on the routers wan interface has to be different than the ip ranges on the lan interface of the router or no routing can take place.

This again comes back to reading the routers manual which would give you a much better idea how all this works and how you should proceed.
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