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Name: shahram
Date: December 9, 2006 at 12:24:19 Pacific
OS: Win XP pro Sp2
CPU/Ram: p 4.2
Product: asus
Comment:

Hi,

I want to remotely connect to my computer in my office, but eventhough I have an internet IP address, but it seems all the ports are blocked by my ISP (office ISP) if accessed from outside the office network.


I couldn't find anyways to control my computer remotely,

I thought of revers connecting,
I only found a program named Remote Helpdesk, but it only runs if a user is logged in which I don't want to leave my computer logged in in my office,

does anybody know a way to access my computer eventhough the ports are blocked??

thanx



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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: December 9, 2006 at 13:22:38 Pacific
Reply:

You will probably find that your employers have blocked outside access to their network for very sound security reasons.

Any attempt to circumvent those restrictions will probably lead to you being shown the door and you won't have an office computer anymore.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: shahram
Date: December 9, 2006 at 13:59:04 Pacific
Reply:

it's not exactly an employer-employee situation,
it is my office in the university, and what I am talking about is a personal computer of mine connected to internet there, and I need to connect to this computer from my home computer for some data synchronization and else....

I am just looking for a way to connect behind these blocked ports.


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Response Number 3
Name: Curt R
Date: December 9, 2006 at 15:20:55 Pacific
Reply:

it's not exactly an employer-employee situation,
it is my office in the university, and what I am talking about is a personal computer of mine connected to internet there

That's exactly an employer-employee relationship unless you happen to own the University.

I don't know about where you work, but at the University I work at, personal computers are strictly prohibited within the university computing environment. The obvious security/virus reasons apply to this thinking.

I would wager the University that employs you has strict usage policies regarding their network and computing equipment. I highly recommend you reread it and actually pay attention this time. My bet is, what you wish to do is not allowed unless you go through the proper channels (ie: the IT and/or Networking department).

Don't tell me, let me guess, you're an academic, aren't you!?


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Response Number 4
Name: shahram
Date: December 9, 2006 at 16:34:34 Pacific
Reply:

I do sort of have a word in the university,
my question here did not concern ethics but just that u know, personal computers are freely used in our university and there aren't any strict usage policies,
I have even been assigned a static ip address for my MAC,

As I needed this for a short time periods (1 week , here and there) that I am away from my office, I didn't want to deal with our IT department to open a port for me,
rather seeing some sevices such as

www.1one.com or www.gotomypc.com
or standalone software eg Remote Helpesk made me look for a solution to make reverse connections without having to open a port in my network or as u said cause a security threat for the network.

The only problem with the above mentioned systems are either too expensive for short time usage or in case of the program remote helpdesk, you can not run it as a service so connections would be possible even when nobody is logged in.


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Response Number 5
Name: shahram
Date: December 9, 2006 at 16:39:47 Pacific

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Response Number 6
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: December 10, 2006 at 07:45:44 Pacific
Reply:

There's no way your university allows this behind their backs. If they do, their IT staff should be promptly fired.

And you're not understanding that regardless of if something requires the port to be opened or not, remote control like this is a security risk. Whether or not to allow this risk is up to the people who make decisions about the network.

"How many squirrels had to die to make you look fly?!"


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Response Number 7
Name: shahram
Date: December 10, 2006 at 10:46:18 Pacific
Reply:

With your concept, you might as well want to disconnect your internet cause that is a security risk. no matter the extent of the risk or how much you need it, it is still a security risk as it is an open incoming port.

FTR I got a port opened up to my computer, and the problem is resolved.



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Response Number 8
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: December 10, 2006 at 11:06:14 Pacific
Reply:

"With your concept, you might as well want to disconnect your internet cause that is a security risk."

First off, if you want to debate a network engineer with years of experience in network security, firewalls, etc. about security, go right ahead, but you're going to look foolish in the end.

Secondly, yes, internet connectivity is also a security risk. I didn't say it shouldn't be done. I said it is up to the people who make decisions about the network who know way more than you to decide if the risk is worth it.

According to your logic, if people like you want unfettered access to and from the internet, the entire firewall should be opened without an intelligent examination of the ramifications of doing so. And if the network was run that way, you'd have worms crawling all over your network.

Proper security is to deny everything by default, and then allowing only the things that are needed, and as those things come up, a thoughtful examination should be made by technical personnel and the decision makers of the business or organization. I won't dare presume to say them letting you have this access is wrong; however, they should have made the decision, not you.

In the end, you ended up having to go to those people, as we said repeatedly you should have done in the first place, so I rest my case.

Thanks for playing...

"How many squirrels had to die to make you look fly?!"


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Response Number 9
Name: coolsmarty
Date: December 11, 2006 at 16:00:08 Pacific
Reply:

Try "Symentec PC AnyWhere" and you will
give me a praise.

hello


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Response Number 10
Name: hackmiester
Date: December 31, 2006 at 13:13:46 Pacific
Reply:

Assuming the home computer and the office computer are running a derivative of UNIX with ssh installed, you can do this on the office machine:

ssh -R 2222:localhost:22 home.hackmiester.com

replacing home.hackmiester.com with the address for your home computer.

Then, at home, you can do

ssh localhost 2222

and you will connect to the work computer. Hope that helps.

(P.S. If you're running windows, you can do this with sshwindows.sf.net )

--hackmiester


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