hi guys, I have Sympatico DSL High speed and they gave me a Siemens Speedstream 4200 modem, i recently discovered that this modem (as well as my other 5200) is a router Now i also have a 5200 (as mentioned above) and i am wondering which is better, i have noticed that the 5200 is not capable of being directly connected to my hub whereas my 4200 is currently connected and acts as a DHCP sever, th reason i am thinking of switching to the 5200 is because it has control over the nat,firewall etc options the 5200 is upgraded to A21, the 4200 is not capable of upgradsing? So should i upgrade my 4200 or stick with it because with it i can at least always be on the net no matter which comps are on or not? thx in advance darin luckie Thx in advance!!! Darin Luckie AMD Athlon 900 256MB DDR 400 20GB hdd Windows xp professional