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Name: jonwisbey
Date: May 16, 2009 at 03:15:45 Pacific
OS: Windows Vista
Subcategory: General
Comment:

hi i wonder if anyone here can help me

i need to run 7 extenion phone lines of 1 master socket.

i going to use cat5 for this but am unsure what backbone equipment i need

they system needs to be able to run phones, sky box's and internet all of the same system.



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Response Number 1
Name: guapo
Date: May 16, 2009 at 05:53:50 Pacific
Reply:

You need a patch panel(s), router & switch at the service entry point. From there you run the lines to the user locations. Hopefully, there is a hung ceiling where you can run the wires.

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Response Number 2
Name: jonwisbey
Date: May 16, 2009 at 07:15:03 Pacific
Reply:

thanks for that no plaster on walls so total blank canvase

can you suggest any models for the equipment as i thought i needed something like that but not sure which ones

once again thanks for the reply


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Response Number 3
Name: guapo
Date: May 16, 2009 at 08:17:56 Pacific
Reply:

There are a lot of choices. Any basic panel, router & switch will work for the computer network. I'm not sure what you meant by 7 phone extensions. Do you have a PBX? How many numbers are there? I'm really not a phone installer.

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Response Number 4
Name: jonwisbey
Date: May 16, 2009 at 08:27:56 Pacific
Reply:

whats a pxb?

im a tv installer i have a cliant that would like 7 points fitted for sky+ freesat and tv which i can take care of.

but he also needs each of the severn points to have a phoneline connection for use of eather contractual reasons for sky or for use with phones and internet

he has a storage space under the stairs where i will be putting the head end tv system and so was going to run cat5e from all severn points to this one location.

i just need to know as im also no phone guy how would i and what is the best brand to use for hooking all the cat5e upto a master phone socket


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Response Number 5
Name: FishMonger
Date: May 16, 2009 at 12:14:49 Pacific
Reply:

PBX - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privat...

I'm not clear as to what type of phone lines you're client is planning on using. Are we talking about POTS (Plain Old telephone System) lines, or VoIP (Voice over IP, i.e. internet)?

If POTS lines then you'll want a USOC patch panel for the phones and a T568B patch panel for the network. You'll also need to work out how to handle the cross connect between the telco demark and the patch panel. That's often done by connecting the phone lines from the demark to a 66 block and then an octopus cable from there to the patch panel.

Since this is a new installation, you should use cat6 instead of cat5e (the cost difference is negligible).

I'd also highly recommend using a managed switch


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Response Number 6
Name: jonwisbey
Date: May 17, 2009 at 01:43:43 Pacific
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i have allowed for upgrades of cable in the planning. We shall be enbeeding the cable in trunking so cables can be fished through but i was thinking about cat6.

at the moment and untill tv really kicks off through broadband which less face it its going to be a few years yet the cat5/cat6 will be used just for phone lines and plugging in skyboxs and the odd computer. it needs to in my clients words

"i just want it to work where ever i choose to have the tv or phones"

im in the businees of tv systems not phones i do the odd phoneline extension but nothing every like this.

its not the cost im too concerned with after all its not my money but i would be very greatfull if some one could tell me

which parts i need and a recomended make model and what they are e.g i have read else where i need a router hub and switch but you just thrown in a managed switch is their a defference?


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Response Number 7
Name: jonwisbey
Date: May 17, 2009 at 03:18:51 Pacific
Reply:

i have allowed for upgrades of cable in the planning. We shall be enbeeding the cable in trunking so cables can be fished through but i was thinking about cat6.

at the moment and untill tv really kicks off through broadband which less face it its going to be a few years yet the cat5/cat6 will be used just for phone lines and plugging in skyboxs and the odd computer. it needs to in my clients words

"i just want it to work where ever i choose to have the tv or phones"

im in the businees of tv systems not phones i do the odd phoneline extension but nothing every like this.

its not the cost im too concerned with after all its not my money but i would be very greatfull if some one could tell me

which parts i need and a recomended make model and what they are e.g i have read else where i need a router hub and switch but you just thrown in a managed switch is their a defference?


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Response Number 8
Name: FishMonger
Date: May 17, 2009 at 10:05:15 Pacific
Reply:

There are some questions that you need to ask yourself and your client.

Is this to be setup like a typical home installation, or more in the range of a commercial/business installation?

How many end points are you needing for each media?

Do you need to plan for wireless networking, or will everything be hard wired?

For the phones, do you need only plain old telephone lines, or do you also need VoIP lines either now or in the future?

Of course there would be followup questions for each of those and the answers will alter the models of the equipment.

Basic network & VoIP setup would be:
Broadband modem -> Router -> Switch -> T568A or T568B Patch Panel -> Computers and VoIP Phones.

Brand wises I'd go with the business line of any of the major companies, such as Netgear, Linksys/Cisco, D-Link.

Mangeged vs Unmanaged switch:
The managed switch allows to have control of the individual ports and makes it easier to secure and troubleshoot network problems.

POTS Phones:
Telco Demark -> 66 Block -> USOC Patch Panel -> Phones

Cabling:
If you're planing on putting each type of cable in most or all of the outlet boxes, then you might look at using structured/bundled cable. Bundled cable is multiple cables of different types bundled/sheathed together. A common bundle would include 2 RG6Q and 2 Cat6


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