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Name: bobeld
Date: July 24, 2009 at 11:48:13 Pacific
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU/Ram: 2.999 GHz / 1022 MB
Product: Sony / Vgc-rc110g
Subcategory: General
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I have an Actiontec MI 424 WR in one room with 3 computers and a network printer - this router connects to the Internet. My Sony sees the other computers attached to this Actiontec whether wired or wireless. In another room, I have USR5461 MaxG router. The two routers are hard wired (Cat 6). I have a Dell 8400 computer also running Win 7 attached to the USR5461. I can get Internet access as well as access the network printer on the other network. Both networks currently do not see each other.

Win 7 calls my homegroup Network 3 at the Actiontec side and Network 2 at the USR5461 side. I want to join the two networks. I have tried the following:
1. Disabling Windows firewall on both sides
2. Network Troubleshooter (on both computers finds no problems)
3. Have tried to set up a new network in the Network and Sharing Center choosing "Set up a new network: Configure a new router or access point" Win 7 says that it can take up to 90 seconds to find an unconfigured device but it never finds anything. (I was hoping for it to find the USR router.) I tried it the other way too from the Dell hoping it might discover the Actiontec router.

How can I join these two networks? Also - it is interesting that neither network configured itself as network 1 and that the USR5461 network configured itself as Network 2 after the Actiontec was already Network 3.\

I am not super saavy about networks but I do consider myself an advanced user and have built and configured machines in the past.

Thanks in advance for any help.



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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: July 24, 2009 at 11:50:54 Pacific
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Response Number 2
Name: bobeld
Date: July 24, 2009 at 13:46:31 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Wanderer,

Unfortunately, this is not my setup, as both computers on each network are hardwired ethernet into each router and the two routers are also hardwired together.

Thanks for your efforts though - I appreciate it.
bobeld


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Response Number 3
Name: wanderer
Date: July 24, 2009 at 14:18:02 Pacific
Reply:

bobbeld you missed the point.

The example is how you NEED to set these up. The way you have it now each router provides its own network which is what you don't want.

What you do want is achived by the design in the link. The second router is cascaded off the first and doesn't act as a router but as a switch/wireless AP.

This is the configuration you want if you want one network to share files and printer to all


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Response Number 4
Name: bobeld
Date: July 24, 2009 at 22:00:47 Pacific
Reply:

Dear Wanderer,

Sorry that I did not understand at first. I guess I was thrown by seeing the Wireless router even though I am not using it as such.

My Actiontec which is my connection to the Internet is going to be the "Other Router" in the diagram you sent. My USR which is connected to it via ethernet is going to be "Wireless" router in the diagram and the one for which I need to turn off DHCP and set a static address which should be the same as the Actiontec's.

Did I get it right?

Thanks again for your support on this issue.

Bobeld


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Response Number 5
Name: bobeld
Date: July 24, 2009 at 23:06:25 Pacific
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Wanderer,

I realize that the "Wireless" has to have a different IP address than the other router and only the Gateway should be the same as the other router.

Thanks,
Bob Eldridge

Will post how configuration went with the next 2-3 days.


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Response Number 6
Name: bobeld
Date: July 28, 2009 at 19:48:10 Pacific
Reply:

Well, I am part way there.
I am now accessing the network from the Lan Port on the USR (the second router). I have Internet Access but can see no one in my Homegroup except me. Win 7's way of networking adds another layer of confusion.
When I have more time, I will post the IP addresses for both routers and machines.

Thanks


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