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Network Vista & Win98se DSL?

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Name: Lindsay90
Date: August 16, 2007 at 10:55:27 Pacific
OS: Vista & Win 98se
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon 64 dual-core 4
Product: Gateway GT5435e/ HP 6646c
Comment:

I want to be able to access my DSL from either computer (file sharing would be helpful too, but at the very least I just want to be able to get both online.) Right now I have DSL on the Vista machine. Installed a network card in the 98 and both computers are connected to a router. The router shows both are connected. On the vista machine I can see the 98 (and shared folders) but I can't access them- vista asks for a username/password.
On the 98, my Network Neighborhood shows Entire Neighborhood, but when I click, I get an error "Unable to browse the network. The network is not accessible. FMI see help ,etc.."

Can someone steer me in the right direction?



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Response Number 1
Name: Curt R
Date: August 16, 2007 at 12:55:00 Pacific
Reply:

First, check and ensure both PC's are using the same workgroup name.

On the Vista PC, if it's anything like XP, you would want to create a user account for the 98 PC using the exact same username and password used to login to the 98 PC at bootup. Once you've created the account, add it to the shares you want and grant permissions to the account.

Instead of trying to browse the 98 PC, try just mapping a drive directly from Vista . Let's say you've shared a folder called \temp on the root of C: on the 98 PC. In the "map network drive" window type: \\98PCname\temp

You could also map the drive from a command prompt window using the "net use" command and the above UNC.


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Response Number 2
Name: zero_kool
Date: August 16, 2007 at 13:02:45 Pacific
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Depending on type of router you have, the permissions may be only configured to let you read but not write. Or, both the OS may not be configured correctly to give access permission from the other OS. Vista will have to be configured to give access permission to 98SE and visa versa. I am not that familiar with Vista, but I hope this helps a little bit.


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Response Number 3
Name: wanderer
Date: August 17, 2007 at 21:51:27 Pacific
Reply:

the lan side of a router has nothing to do with OS permissions. false trail. CurtR has the answer or hit help and support and type in file sharing for more info in vista.

Are you ready for where Microsoft wants you to go today?


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Response Number 4
Name: Lindsay90
Date: August 27, 2007 at 07:47:33 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you for your suggestions. I had the workgroup right. I'm able to get files from the Win98 now without login/passwords by moving things from My Documents into a Shared Documents folder- don't know what the difference is but it's working! Still haven't got the DSL working on the old machine.


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Response Number 5
Name: Chip-Walsh
Date: September 14, 2007 at 08:42:43 Pacific
Reply:

Hi, I'm new here, and very excited to find this forum because I've been running up against a wall with symptoms very much like Lindsay90.

I am trying to migrate from my older Win98 machine to a new Vista laptop. My Win98 machine was never set up with users, so when Vista asks me for uid and password, all I have to give it is a password. I've tried no uid and uid = guest and other values.

I also have an XP machine on my home network, and the 98 and XP machines could exchange files quite well, prior to the addition of the Vista laptop. Now, on the 98 machine, if I click on entire network, I get the "unable to browse the network" message Lindsay90 was getting.

One thing I noticed is that on the XP machine, when I want to browse the 98 machine, the box that pops up to accept the password has a greyed out box with a uid value of machine-name/Guest. I tried entering this as uid from the Vista PC and it seemed to work, only the directory/file view is blank. I also get a blank dir/file view of the XP machine from the Vista. All PCs can access the Internet across the network, so basic connectivity has been established.

I will be playing with the share folders and account names next time I have some time to work on this. Since discovering the uid values in the greyed out uid field of the XP, I guess I will use those values to set up an account on the Vista. If anybody has guidance for me regards the no-user Win 98 issue, please let me know.

This appears to be a great site and I am glad to have found it. Thanks for posting to this thread.

Chip Walsh, Gambrills, MD


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Response Number 6
Name: Lindsay90
Date: September 20, 2007 at 13:48:54 Pacific
Reply:

I still can't get internet access on the Win98 computer, even installed a new network card after a friend looked everything over and said "it should work" and "maybe you got a bad card." The lights on the card are lit, the router shows 98 connected, the Vista computer can access my shared files, I've checked and re-checked all the network settings, but it's still not getting online.(If it matters my DSL is Windstream.) I don't know what I'm missing... Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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Response Number 7
Name: Chip-Walsh
Date: October 1, 2007 at 08:34:17 Pacific
Reply:

I have had results using a software product called Network Magic. I downloaded and installed the product from networkmagic.com

The software detected the network and remote computers and established connectivity to all computers and the Intranet. That's the good news.

The product allows you to designate folders on each computer that you want to share with other computers on the network. I have at least been able to accomplish migration of my files from the 98 computer to the Vista computer.

Networkmagic gives you a 7-day free evaluation period, and I am approaching the end of the eval period. I'm gonna have to see better results before I buy (although it is pretty cheap, about $40 to cover my three units.) But if there is any kind of hiccup, my connections get turned off. Apparently, once one computer turns it off, the software trys to fix it, and step one seems to be to get a new IP address for the modem. In so doing, any other computer that was using the modem gets dumped offline. You can fix this by power-cycling the modem and router, which I am having to do a number of times per session. The win98 machine is hanging up, I have not been able to gracefully turn this computer off in the last week. It will not surprise me if the cause is a conflict with McAfee (I so prefer Norton, but went with McAfee because comcast gives it to me for no charge). The win 98 machine's performance went in the tank once I switched to McAffee. But I'm digressing here.

The main thing I want to post was that you might try Networkmagic if nothing else seems to work.

~~Chip Walsh, Gambrills, MD


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