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Name: Fao
Date: August 30, 2007 at 11:34:19 Pacific
Subject: Network Cabling question(s)
OS: Windows XP
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I am hoping some on can help me. I am thinking of setting up a network at home and I have few questions.

Quoted form http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/...

"Bulk cable comes in many types, there are 2 basic categories, solid and braided cable. Braided cable tends to work better in "patch" applications for desktop use. It is more flexible and resiliant than solid cable and easier to work with, but really meant for shorter lengths. Solid cable is meant for longer runs in a fixed position."

What is considered a "shorter length", "longer run" and what is "fixed position"? Do you believe they mean a straight line or is it something else?

Sorry for the "long windedness" of this post.
Thanks in advance.


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Response Number 1
Name: Walter Mitty
Date: August 30, 2007 at 12:08:06 Pacific
Subject: Network Cabling question(s)
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Just buying standard lengths CAT5 Cable from a PC retailer will suffice for home use, no need to know why it works!

Unless this is a Homework Question ?


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Response Number 2
Name: StuartS
Date: August 30, 2007 at 12:53:31 Pacific
Subject: Network Cabling question(s)
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Fixed position means cable going through a conduit. Unless solid cable is fixed, it will brake as it is not very flexible.

Braided cable can be flexed and coiled and manipulated without fear of breaking the conductors internally.

Most cable for home use is braided and will be more than adequate for home use unless you are networking a mansion with 50 computers scattered throughout the place.

Stuart


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Response Number 3
Name: Arin
Date: August 30, 2007 at 13:59:06 Pacific
Subject: Network Cabling question(s)
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it also depends on how you are going to install the cable. if you are going to just run it along the floor to the computers I would just buy long patch cables but if you are going to in stall it in the wall and use face plates and all, I would get CAT5e or even CAT6e. You can get it from Places Like Home Depot and Lowes cheaper than the PC store esp. if you need longer lengths. I networked my house with 5e and did 1voice and 2 data drops per room and did the face plates patch panels and all and have had 0 problems while other guys have just done the long patch cord route and have had some issues. Just some food for thought. Good luck to you.

Thanks

Arin


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Response Number 4
Name: Curt R
Date: August 30, 2007 at 15:24:33 Pacific
Subject: Network Cabling question(s)
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What is considered a "shorter length", "longer run" and what is "fixed position"? Do you believe they mean a straight line or is it something else?

A shorter length would be a patch cable running from a wall outlet to a PC or from patch panel to switch.

The term "fixed position" doesn't apply only to cable inside conduit. If only there were always conduit available!!!! However, that's not always the case....especially in a home environment. Fixed position really means, a cable that will not be moved. Generally, this applies to anything that goes from a patch panel to a wall outlet. Whether run through conduit or not is irrelevant. The point being, once it's been run, punched and tested, you will not ever be moving it again unless you remove and replace it at some point in the future.


With regard to braided and solid core cabling:

Braided (better known as "stranded" cable) is multiple small copper wires twisted together. Solid core is just that, the the wires inside the cable is are solid piece of copper wire.

In my experience, and I am a network technician by trade and have pulled and punched (and tested) more miles of cabling than I care to think about, neither one is any "better" than the other. Solid core is generally used for "fixed position" cabling and stranded for patch cables.

Your best bet is most definately to pull the wire to outlets. This will require faceplates and "keystones" (the RJ-45 ends that snap into the faceplate) as well as a patch panel for the other end.

If you want a good price on cabling, don't go to Lowes, or Home depot, or WalMart or Future Shop or any PC store. Call a company (or several and get quotes) that supplies electrical cabling. If you're going to do it right (ie: patch panel to outlets through the walls and ceiling space) you will first want to figure out how many cables you'll be pulling to the outlets. In the above reply, Arin stated he pulled 3 per outlet (2 data, 1 VoIP). I recommend you get 3 boxes of cable in a case like that so you only have to pull to each outlet once. Three cables at one time makes more sense, and is easier and less time consuming, than 1 cable 3 times. However, you're likely to end up with a lot of leftover considering boxes of cabling come in 1000 foot rolls.

Don't forget to test after running your cables. Those cheap little testers that have nothing more to them than blinking lights are the next best thing to useless. Get a professional quality tester that will also certify. You could likely call an electrician and have them come test for you a lot cheaper than buying a tester.


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Response Number 5
Name: Fao
Date: September 1, 2007 at 00:40:56 Pacific
Subject: Network Cabling question(s)
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Thanks guys for all the advice. This was not a homework assignment. I think I will use the standard Cat5e patch cable, and follow Arin's advice and just run the cable, I mean I just needed to get internet access on my second floor because wireless would not work properly for some reason. But before I do that, I wondering if someone could tell some of the problems that they have encountered with running cable over certain distances such data transmission slow down, internet signal dropping in and out, etc...
Thanks.


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Response Number 6
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: September 1, 2007 at 05:33:30 Pacific
Subject: Network Cabling question(s)
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As long as you keep the total length under 100 meters/306 feet total length you will have no problems, do keep in mind that things like florescent lights and motors can cause problems if the cable is run to close to them.

Here are some links that are of some help:
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeC...
The above link will take you to a page that you have to click on in order to download a PDF that should answer most all your questions

http://fcit.usf.edu/network/chap4/c...
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/artic...

Keep the old stuff running


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