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NetBios from Windows XP Pro to Windows 98

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Name: INDEX
Date: June 5, 2009 at 06:27:55 Pacific
OS: Windows
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Hello,

I have got a strange issue with two computers.
One is a Windows XP Pro with two nics
NIC1 is for the local area network
NIC2 is for the internet
and the other is a Windows 98SE with one nic for the
local area network. Both machine are connected with
a switch for the local area network.
The problem is that when I connect the Windows XP
Pro machine to the internet that after 15 minutes I'm
unable to connect to the windows98 by unc path I still
can ping it by name and ip but can't access it by
name or ip with the unc path.
When I restart the WIndows XP machine the problem
is solved for ±15 minutes.

Ideas???



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Response Number 1
Name: Curt R
Date: June 5, 2009 at 07:12:32 Pacific
Reply:

Are you using ICS on the XP computer to share the internet with the windows 98 computer?


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Response Number 2
Name: INDEX
Date: June 5, 2009 at 07:15:55 Pacific
Reply:

No I don't share the internet connection with the win98


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Response Number 3
Name: Curt R
Date: June 5, 2009 at 10:26:30 Pacific
Reply:

Hmmmm.....that's an interesting issue.

I'm unable to connect to the windows98 by unc path I still
can ping it by name and ip but can't access it by name or ip with the unc path.

This leads me to believe the issue is on the 98 PC. What it could be, I'm not sure but at this point, if it were me, I'd first try uninstalling netbios, then reinstalling it. If that doesn't work, do the same with the TCP/IP stack. If that doesn't do it, try uninstalling the NIC and rebooting and then reinstalling the NIC.


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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: June 5, 2009 at 10:44:44 Pacific
Reply:

I don't recall netbios being a seperate install with windows 98. Like in xp its builtin to tcp/ip. Netbeui was a separate install.

Let's make sure we have a clear picture here of your setup.

You are not sharing the network on the xp host pc
How are you connecting the 98 box to the xp box? Via a hub/switch or a crossover cable?

On the xp box you have a ip on nic1 and on nic2
Please post the results of a ipconfig /all so we can review these nic tcp/ip configurations.


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Response Number 5
Name: INDEX
Date: June 7, 2009 at 23:50:28 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry for the late reaction..
I have 2 shared folders one on the win98 and one on the
winxp.
The computers are connected through a switch.

Windows XP ipconfig
C:\Documents and Settings\aloha>ipconfig /all

Windows IP-configuratie

Host-naam . . . . . . . . . . . .: PAVILJOEN
Primair DNS-achtervoegsel. . . . .:
Knooppunttype . . . . . . . . . . : hybride
IP-routering ingeschakeld. . . . .: nee
WINS-proxy ingeschakeld . . . . . : nee
DNS-achtervoegselzoeklijst. . . . : DOMAIN.local

Ethernet-adapter LAN1:

Verbindingsspec. DNS-achtervoegsel:
Beschrijving . . . . . . . . . . .:
Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
Fysiek adres. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-11-43-1D-F5-B6
DHCP ingeschakeld:. . . . . . . . : nee
IP-adres. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnetmasker. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Standaardgateway. . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet-adapter LAN2:

Verbindingsspec. DNS-achtervoegsel: domain.local
Beschrijving . . . . . . . . . . .:
D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev.C)
Fysiek adres. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-19-5B-6C-6E-13
DHCP ingeshakeld. . . . . . . . . : ja
Autom. configuratie ingeschakeld. : ja
IP-adres. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.155
Subnetmasker. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Standaardgateway. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP-server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.201
DNS-servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.201
Primaire WINS-server. . . . . . . : 192.168.0.201
Lease verkregen . . . . . . . . . : maandag 8 juni 2009
7:34:35
Lease verlopen . . . . . . . . . : maandag 8 juni 2009
9:34:35

Windows 98 ipconfig
Windows 98 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . : PAVILJOEN3
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor Corp.
DP83815 10/10
0 MacPhyter3v PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-0D-60-D6-62-54
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

The funny part is that when I disconnect the internet cable
the problem is resolved ???



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Response Number 6
Name: wanderer
Date: June 8, 2009 at 07:49:53 Pacific
Reply:

98 ipconfig doesn't have a gateway entry. It should be 192.168.1.100

Notice on your 98 ipconfig this?
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No

but on your xp box you should have the same set to yes
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : yes [ja]

You can't use ICS due to the 192.168.0.x ip range on the wan interface. You can use bridging.


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Response Number 7
Name: INDEX
Date: June 8, 2009 at 09:35:52 Pacific
Reply:

I don't use the windows xp machine ICS.


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Response Number 8
Name: wanderer
Date: June 8, 2009 at 09:46:09 Pacific
Reply:

have you added the 98 box to the xp windows firewall as trusted?

On both xp and 98 in tcp/ip properties/advanced/wins tab make sure netbios is enabled over tcp/ip on both


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