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Name: tfs
Date: August 5, 2003 at 19:43:55 Pacific
Subject: Nating limits?
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Is there an optimum limit for Nat Overloading? We have an organization of about 50 people accessing the Internet only moderately. Would this be a problem with most routers? What about a small business router/firewall - such as a linksys firewall router.

Would this be too much for this size router or should I go to a more higher end router.

Thanks,

Tom.


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Response Number 1
Name: JackG
Date: August 5, 2003 at 21:01:54 Pacific
Subject: Nating limits?
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A LinkSys router like the BEFSR41 4 port router has a plug and go default setup for 99 systems. It has a good inbound firewall, but only supports one VPN link. The LinkSys Firewall router has basically the same with additional Firewall options and additional VPN support.

This suggests that LinkSys thinks that this number is a supportable number of systems to share one IP address. However, it can be configured to support upto 255 systems. All you need is enough fast switches to hook it up, which I assume you already have.

Both of these units are very low cost and very good. So what do you have to loose in trying one. If it does not work out, you can always get a higher end router later if you find out you need it. You would not be out much (Best Buy, under $99 to $50) plus cables.

The real issue, is can one DSL/Cable link and one IP address handle all of your Internet access? Only one way to find out. Start out small.

Get a DSL/Cable line and modem (if you don't have one already) and connect up the router and one system and get it working first off of the first port using a 10/100 NIC. Then hang an 8-port switch off of the second port with a few systems on it. Expand in stages (there will be problems along the way) until you have them all hooked up and running or until you reach the usability limits of sharing one IP address and link.

If it all works OK with one, fine. If not, get a second line and router and split the network, or address the issue of a wider broadband connection and a much more expensive host router. You can always use the LinkSys router as a four port switch.

For a business, a DSL (non PPPoE if you can get it) may be the best way to go, but in many areas a Cable connection will be faster, if you are only accessing the Internet and not trying to upload much. Cable normally has only about half of the upload speed, but twice the download bandwidth. And you can buy a Linksys Cable modem, where as you normally have to buy the DLS Modem through the phone company or DSL provider.

Check out the LinkSys site. Then talk with the local DSL and Cable providers for what they can support and what the costs are for a business link.


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Response Number 2
Name: tfs
Date: August 5, 2003 at 22:34:32 Pacific
Subject: Nating limits?
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Does it matter if you split the traffic on the 4 ports of the linksys firewall switch? It still has to go out one port to the internet.

I'm not sure what type of switches are being used yet.

As far as uploading, I assume most of the traffic is going to be downloading.

I was going to use the Linksys firewall router. I've used this before and had good luck. I use a Sonicwall Soho10, myself, and like it a lot. It is just quite a bit more expensive than the Linksys.

Thanks,

Tom.


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Response Number 3
Name: Brian Delaney
Date: August 8, 2003 at 07:36:37 Pacific
Subject: Nating limits?
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Personally I've connected 40+ systems to a dlink di-704 router with a couple 16 port switches and it works fine. You're not actually splitting the internet connection like you may think.. if you put 10 systems on a 1Mb internet connection each system will not be restricted to 100Kbs, the router will allow one system to use the entire 1Mb if it is not in use by any other systems.

For moderate internet use on 50 systems a plain old cable/dsl router will be just fine.


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