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Name: seba
Date: March 16, 2007 at 02:29:39 Pacific
OS: windows
CPU/Ram: pentium 4 1GB
Comment:

Hello,
could someone tell me if, when I run my wireless adapter in ad hoc mode, a routing protocol is used (e.g. olsr)? or I can just communicate with nodes in my range of communication?
Thank you very much for the reply!




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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 16, 2007 at 07:49:51 Pacific
Reply:

ad hoc simply provides a connection mechanism for wifi connections. It is completely irrelevant to routing or routing protocols. You can connect to people in ad hoc networks. IP addressing, etc. would be taken care of just as it is with wired connections - someone can run a DHCP server, or APIPA would take over.

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Response Number 2
Name: picohat
Date: March 16, 2007 at 20:10:18 Pacific
Reply:

Wireless ad-hoc network is wireless connection between computers without using access point/wireless router, it's the same concept if you connect 2 computers directly using crossover cable.

If one of the computer (computer A) is enabled with Internet Connection Sharing or configured as router, other computers in ad-hoc network can still go to Internet or other networks by pointing to this computer
A as gateway.

Internet Connection Sharing Tutorial

How to configure XP as a simple router (ip forwarding)

Hope helps..


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Response Number 3
Name: seba
Date: March 19, 2007 at 01:31:50 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks to all,
the information you provided me with were very useful.
But this is exactly what I wanted to know: there are 3 hosts with a wireless adapter A, B and C. A is close to B and B is close to C BUT a CANNOT see C. in order A to communicate with C there's the need for some ad hoc routing protocols right? My question is: HOW CAN I USE SUCH PROTOCOLS. Or How does the routing (packet forwarding I mean) works in such a case?
Thank you very much


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Response Number 4
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 19, 2007 at 05:07:32 Pacific
Reply:

"in order A to communicate with C there's the need for some ad hoc routing protocols right?"

NO! Ad hoc networks are effectively peer to peer networks. No routing protocols are necessary.

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Response Number 5
Name: picohat
Date: March 19, 2007 at 06:31:08 Pacific
Reply:

If A is connected to B, and B is connected to C, in order for A to see C, you need to configure B as router (ip forwarding), so that B knows how to route traffic.


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Response Number 6
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 19, 2007 at 08:44:50 Pacific
Reply:

How do you propose that is going to happen unless you assign multiple IP's on the NIC on B, and make a routing table on B, configure either a routing table or a DG on both A and C?

If you want to go to all that trouble, by all means, go for it.

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Response Number 7
Name: seba
Date: March 19, 2007 at 09:10:00 Pacific
Reply:

Ok ok,
but the the discussion title is MANET (mobile ad hoc networks) and I am pretty sure that (think to military applications where nodes are far away each other and not all in the same trasmission range) they have been designed and implemented some routing protocols because, in such scenario, nodes are also packets forwarder.
Now, my practical question is: I have the code and the binary of one of such routing protocol. HOW CAN I USE IT?
Thank you, your previous answers are anyway accepted since they provide me with new skills.


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Response Number 8
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 19, 2007 at 10:54:23 Pacific
Reply:

You're not getting it.

Ad hoc networks are not on the same OSI level as routing.

Ad hoc - the only thing it does is say "connect peer to peer, not to an access point". It's similar to changing a wired interconnect from a hub to a switch. It has absolutely nothing to do with routing.

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Hats off & applause to rogues & evolution!
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Response Number 9
Name: seba
Date: March 20, 2007 at 00:45:57 Pacific
Reply:

You're right, routing is involved in network layer (3rd level).
So, let's come back to the 3 hosts example: if A, B and C are ALL in the same trasmission range of A, A can send messages to both B and C.....it's like to have an hub in the "wired world"?
(I can say that because I did an ad hoc network with 3 other friends and we could ping each other....obviously we the IP addresses had the same network address (accordingly to the netmask)).
Thank you...and sorry for my insistent questions but I need to know some mechanisms.


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