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Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 1, 2009 at 15:12:16 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
Subcategory: Routers and Hubs
Comment:

Alrighty, as you can probably guess, I'm having some internet
connection issues.
On my desktop computer, the internet randomly timed out, and on
each browser I tried displayed a 'cannot connect to the internet', or
'this webpage is not available' message. I didn't recently install
anything to it, and I've scan my computer multiple times for viruses
and such the like, but nothing showed up. Since it first went down, I
haven't been able to get a connection.
Now of course, the computer I'm talking about is a client computer to
a shared home network. It's the only computer having this problem,
as the rest of the computers on my network, including the host
computer, still remain with a steady connection.
(Including the one I'm typing this on, haha.)
I am using a Windows XP, sorry for not mentioning it earlier. It's an
older computer, and isn't able to automatically connect to a wireless
network like my laptop can.
I've also tried running the network diagnosis wizard / connection repair
wizard, but nothing it did helped. Not to mention restarting it probably
a dozen times, resulting once again with no results.
Unplugging and connecting the router and NETGEAR connecters also
doesn't seem to help.
And to make things worse, the keyboard has also stopped functioning
as well.
If there is any way to fix this mess, please don't hesitate to
contribute. Thank you very much. <3



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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: November 2, 2009 at 12:10:28 Pacific
Reply:

start by posting the results of an ipconfig /all from this pc


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Response Number 2
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 2, 2009 at 12:33:06 Pacific
Reply:

I'm sorry, but what is that exactly? AKA, where can I find it?
As you can probably guess I'm not all that computer savvy.
Thank you~


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Response Number 3
Name: wanderer
Date: November 2, 2009 at 13:13:32 Pacific
Reply:

Not a problem

How to post an ipconfig /all

Go to Start and Run. Type CMD and hit enter. You are now in a black box.
Type ipconfig /all and hit enter.
Now at the top bar of the CMD window do a right mouse click and select Edit and Select All
Once again at the top bar right mouse click and select Edit and select Copy.

Now paste into a post here.


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Response Number 4
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 2, 2009 at 14:49:06 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you so much for the help.
Here's the pasted ipconfig-

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ZANDRA
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-58-1F-34-E8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>


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Response Number 5
Name: wanderer
Date: November 2, 2009 at 16:01:17 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks. Now post an ipconfig /all from a working computer.


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Response Number 6
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 2, 2009 at 16:13:48 Pacific
Reply:

Here's the working one from my laptop:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Zandra>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : starla
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5008 Wireless
Network Adap
ter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1C-B3-B8-59-4C
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.36
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, November 03,
2009 12:10:26
AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November
04, 2009 12:10:2
6 AM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Generic Marvell Yukon
88E8053 based
Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-E3-46-E3-1E

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal
Area Netw
ork)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-63-5D-35-ED

C:\Documents and Settings\Zandra>


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Response Number 7
Name: wanderer
Date: November 3, 2009 at 08:02:29 Pacific
Reply:

OK. You have a number of problems.

First issue is you put the wrong addresses in the first problem pc.

The working one has 192.168.1.1 for gateway yet the nonworking one has 192.168.0.1

You need to re-enter the correct ips into the nonworking workstation or BETTER yet set to obtain ip automatically [ so dhcp is set to yes]

Now in the second ipconfig post these entries are not correct.
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

They should say something like this
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

I am assuming you have all of these connecting to a router which is at 192.168.1.1


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Response Number 8
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 3, 2009 at 08:10:54 Pacific
Reply:

Once again, thank you for helping me with this.

Well, the working PC is connecting to the internet via a wireless connection, while
my older desktop PC (the non-working one) is connected via a NETGEAR router.

Do you need the IP config of the host computer or anything?
Because unfortunately my desktop is the only one connected this way not using a
wireless connection.

I'll try changing what you suggested.

[edit]
I changed the gateway number to what you suggested. However, a bubble recently popped up notifying that 'Local Area Connection 4' has little or no connectivity. You might not be able to access the internet or some network resources etc. etc.

[edit II]
After doing some searching, it seems I have the sme problem as this person here:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ne...
Including the problem with renewing and releasing ipconfig.
I tried disabling my firewall as well.
Any suggestions?


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Response Number 9
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 7, 2009 at 04:57:34 Pacific
Reply:

Please? Is there anyone left that would be wiling to help me
with this? It's been over a week!
Or am I just too impatient?


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Response Number 10
Name: Fist (by fmwap)
Date: November 7, 2009 at 20:41:34 Pacific
Reply:

Wait so...on the problem computer - the internet does work SOMETIMES, but randomly drops - or it never works??

And regarding the other post - have you seen the IP address change to the 169.254.xx.xx address??

Also - you've said the wireless computers work ok, but the wired computer on the netgear router does not - are there any OTHER computers connected to the NETGEAR that have this problem? (Or any other computers connected to the netgear AT ALL?)

You should try setting the static IP on the problem computer to something in the 192.168.0 subnet, like 192.168.0.2 w/ gateway: 192.168.0.1, nameservers: 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 - do not use the 'obtain IP address automatically' setting.... see if that fixes the drops...

my guess is - you have two DHCP servers, the one on the wireless router, and one on the netgear. When your wired computer requests an address, a 'race-condition' happens - DHCP broadcasts to everybody - when the netgear is first to respond, your internet works as you have a correct IP in the 0 subnet, but when the wireless router 'wins the race', you get an IP in the 192.168.1 network, which your netgear might not be routing...your other computers don't see the problem because they're getting their address via the wireless interface & not being forwarded to the netgear...so try hard setting the address & don't let it auto configure...


of course, in that scenario - all the computers connected to the netgear w/ DHCP would have that problem...so do they?

Sorry about the long post, try to answer the first 3 questions and post back.


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Response Number 11
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 8, 2009 at 04:41:00 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you for the reply, by the way.

The internet had been functioning fine for about the last one & a half years on the problem computer. And one day, it just randomly dropped, and since then there is yet to be an internet connection on it.

Yes, the problem computer has a 169.254 etc. as the IP addess and default gateway.

The problem computer is the only one set up via a NETGEAR router, the rest either have direct access to the ISP or are connected via wireless access that was built into the machine. (The three laptops not connected to the NETGEAR router work
flawlessly on wireless.)

I changed the IP's and such to what you suggested. The "!" triangle icon over the connection has dissapeared, but there still isn't internet.

Thank you for such an in-depth description....and how might I go about hard setting the address?
Forgive this computer - illiterate poster.

Nope, as the problem computer is the only one set up VIA a NETGEAR router.


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Response Number 12
Name: Curt R
Date: November 8, 2009 at 05:51:03 Pacific
Reply:

Well, the working PC is connecting to the internet via a wireless connection, while my older desktop PC (the non-working one) is connected via a NETGEAR router.

Is the wireless router the same Netgear router, or is it a different router altogether?

If they're separate router's, what does the router that has the PC that isn't working plug into for internet?


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Response Number 13
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 8, 2009 at 06:56:58 Pacific
Reply:

The wireless connection and the one that should be sent to my
desktop are both broadcast by the same router.
It's sending out a wireless connection fine to the PCs that have
the thing to receive it built in, while my desktop pc doesn't have
this. Does that make sense? Haha.


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Response Number 14
Name: Fist (by fmwap)
Date: November 8, 2009 at 13:12:49 Pacific
Reply:

Well, if you see a 169.254 address, that kind of invalidates my theory...169.254 means your computer was never able to reach the router - it normally indicates a problem from Layer2 downwards (so, NIC drivers, cabling, or the router itself)

Can you try to verify connectivity here, from your problem computer, give it the 192.168.0.2 address, as I'd mentioned earlier, then from a Command Prompt window (CMD), try this:
ping 192.168.0.1

Do you get a REPLY FROM 192.168.0.1?

If so, then it's reaching the netgear

Next try:
ping 192.168.1.1

Do you get a REPLY? If so, you're reaching the wireless modem (Everything should work if you can get this step working)

Lastly - how is your network physically wired exactly? Where is the Uplink to the internet?

I assume it's something like:
[wired computer]---[netgear]---[wireless router]---[cable modem]---(INTERNET) is that right?

Also on the netgear - is the uplink (to the wireless) connected via the LAN or the WAN port?? (Try moving it to the LAN port)

Try to post back w/ the answers to the above - if you can't reach 192.168.0.1 from your problem computer, then it's Layer 2 or 1 related from the host to the netgear (check the link lights on the netgear, try a differnet computer on the netgear, replace the cabling, reinstall your drivers, replace the nic, replace the netgear router)

But, if you can HIT 192.168.0.1, but not 192.168.1.1, then the problem lies between the netgear and the wireless router link.


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Response Number 15
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 8, 2009 at 14:59:02 Pacific
Reply:

After pinging 192.168.0.1, and the request timed out four
times with 100% loss.

I also tried pinging 192.168.1.1, and the request timed out 4
times with a 100% loss. Basically, the same thing.

The setup you described is correct.
Unfortunatly, I don't know whether it's connected via a LAN
or WAN port.
I also tried reinstalling the drivers, still nothing.

I recently plugged in a wireless connector also, into the
problem computer. I regained internet access for abut a
minute before it disappeared again. If that helps.


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Response Number 16
Name: shimmyshimmy
Date: November 9, 2009 at 15:49:08 Pacific
Reply:

Hello, thanks to everyone that tried to help me resolve this
problem.
I really appreciate your time and knowledge.
I recently bought a wireless connection card thing, and I now
have access to the internet. 8] (Basically gave up on the
NETGEAR thing, haha.)
Once again, thank you everyone. If I had the money, I would
pay you with a million dollars. :)


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