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Name: mroddboddkinz
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:11:43 Pacific
OS: windows 2000 server
Subcategory: Servers
Comment:

inheriting someone else's network. slowly moving away
from local server to a remote server. not my decision. from
workstations over cat5 to linksys switch to netopia dsl
modem. windows 2000 server also hooked up to netopia
modem. When the server is down, no one attached to the
network can get online. when they sign in to the domain, I
understand, but when they sign into the machine, with no
domain or workgroup, why can't they get online if they are
using dhcp? what don't I understand?



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Response Number 1
Name: andynet
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:24:47 Pacific
Reply:

It's a bit confusing what you have written.
Are you saying that a singe PC, not in a network running say Windows Xp cannot get online.?


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Response Number 2
Name: mroddboddkinz
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:33:31 Pacific
Reply:

neither machines using xp sp3 nor a mac using 10.5.6. These
machines run to a linksys switch that is connected to the modem. the
server is connected to the modem. when the server is down, so is
everyone's internet access, even if they don't log into the domain
hosted by the server.


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Response Number 3
Name: mroddboddkinz
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:53:37 Pacific
Reply:

let me try that again. ok there currently is a windows 2000 server
with a domain. the users log into that domain so that they can
have networked folders and an administrator can manage the
network and perform group backups. slowly they are moving
away from this machine to a remote server. eventually they want
to get rid of the server, but when it's disconnected, even when
users log onto their machines, not into the domain but rather [name of computer (this machine)]
they cannot get internet access. the users connect via ethernet to
a switch, which in turn connects to a 4 port dsl modem. the server
connects directly to the modem. What I seek is for everyone to be
able to access the internet without the server. why disconnecting
the server from the modem throws a wrench into this mess I don't
understand.


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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 14:01:14 Pacific
Reply:

DNS.

Simple word but complex.

You are running Active Directory. For AD to work it requires the MS DNS server. Your workstation, as they should be, point to it for name resolution. When it is down you can't get to yahoo.com.

When the server is down you should be able to go to yahoo by typing in 206.190.60.37 which is yahoo's ip. You just don't have name resolution for the internet without going thru the ms dns server due to it being down.

drawback is if you change the workstations to the isps dns servers they won't logon/find the domain.


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Response Number 5
Name: mroddboddkinz
Date: April 9, 2009 at 14:21:58 Pacific
Reply:

thank you. is there away to set it up so that when they are logged
into the domain account it uses the dns provided by the server; and
when a user logs into their machine, not the domain I can use the
ISP's dns?


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Response Number 6
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 14:39:53 Pacific
Reply:

All clients should be set to dhcp and getting it from the server now. Once you pull the server setup dhcp on the router which will then give them the correct lan ips, gateway and dns servers.


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