Hi All,

I am trying to give my sister dial up Internet access from her Windows 98 machine to my XP Pro machine. I have ADSL running VIA a Linksys router.

Her machine dials in and connects but has no Internet access. I SUSPECT this is because my router's DHCP server is giving her a private IP address that is not routable on the Internet.

How do I remedy this?

Jimi_l

Are we talking remote connection?????

Yes,

I have added a modem to my machine and set it up to accept incoming connections (her dialing in) to my LAN.

>>I SUSPECT this is because my router's DHCP server is giving her a private IP address that is not routable on the Internet.

This is normal and not necessarily a problem. After your sister successfully dials in to your computer, what is the output of ipconfig /all on her computer?

Also, can you describe what steps you have taken to provide dialup access? I assume you are using RRAS for this - how do you have it configured?

IPCONFIG shows relevent info from the router. That is to say the IP range is within the scope of the DHCP server as are the other settings.

I have not set up anything past the point of making XP able to recieve incoming connections and setting up a new dial up connection on the 98 box.

Jimi_l

Jimi_1, no offense, but you will get better help if you provide more specifics.

You say that ipconfig shows "relevant info from the router." You are probably correct, but how do I know that your definition of "relevant info" is the same as mine? And are you referring to ipconfig on your sister's computer? I assume you are, but I can't be certain because you didn't state that. Specific details are your best resource for getting good help - so please provide them early and often :)

That being said - can your sister successfuly establish a dial-up connection to your computer? If so, please paste the entire output of ipconfig /all from her computer.

Also, can you please describe in as much detail as possible what you have done so far to set this up? You say you have made "XP able to recieve incoming connections". If things still aren't working, it would be helpful to know what you have already done. Without that information, it's hard to know what to suggest other than "read the manual" - which I'm sure you've already done. Right?

http://www.wown.com/articles_tutorials/vpn.html

Jim,

I understand your points, all except asking if I can connect which I already answered in the inital post.

Since the machine is 20 miles away I cannot copy and paste the contents and if I could they would be exactly what I said they would be.

Hiho I have already done exactly what that tutorial and every other I can find runs through. I can connect to the network, just not to the Internet VIA VPN.

I am nearly 100% certain that it is becasue the router issues an IP using NAT that is not Internet routable.

this article
hits the mark but it does not really finish the job. Also it would be nice to know if someone else has accomplished this and if so how.

Thanks,

Jimi_l

You need to punch a hole thru the router to allow access on a specific port, it is in the Router Manual hopefully.

>>Since the machine is 20 miles away I cannot copy and paste the contents and if I could they would be exactly what I said they would be.

You said they would be "relevant". I have no idea what that is.

Have you verified that her ipconfig output is what you assume it to be? If Internet access is the only thing that's broken, ipconfig is the first place I would look.

>>You need to punch a hole thru the router to allow access on a specific port, it is in the Router Manual hopefully.

This has nothing to do with the router. She is dialing in to a computer behind the router, not the router itself.

You are correct,

It is getting in VIA the modem which is circumventing the router. IPCONFIG is showing a local (for the "server") IP address, gateway, subnet etc etc. All info coming from the DHCP server on my router.

Becasue the address is not routable on the Internet and becasue that gateway is also not valid (apparently) on that machine I have my problem....I suspect anyway.

Thanks again,

Jimi_l

The host address doesn't need to be routable. Your router performs NAT, which is designed to work with private addresses.

The gateway address does need to be correct however - and it will be a "non-routable" address as well. The gateway address should be the same on your computer and on your sister's computer. Is it?

Again, it would be helpful to see the actual output of ipconfig on your sister's computer. Since she can successfully connect to your computer via dialup, she should be able to map a drive from your computer and drop a text file there.

Jimmi_1 please note that Jimminy is very correct. You've to describe every bit in details before you could get good solution. However, I'll tell you something maybe you'll fine it helpful.

First of all, for the incoming client (your sister) to get on the internet through your PC connected via ADSL, there must be an active DHCP server on your own subnet, which will be authorized to serve remote access server (your computer in this case).

If the result of 'ipconfig /all' on your sister's computer displays an IP address of the range 169.254.x.x then that computer has not registered properly with your own subnet hence she'll have no Internet access. Possible cause: DHCP service is missing on your subnet OR DHCP server on your subnet is not authorized to service RA client.

May I ask how your ADSL connection or network is? Any idea? Tell me if it's using ICS, NAT, OR NAT-in-Router.

You'll get everything up and running with no hassle if you run ICS in your subnet to share internet. If not ICS, then I'll happily tell you it'll require attention of a very good MCP of Network Infrastructure.

Dont give up. I've been using it from home to get on the internet using my office desktop without paying ISP bills. I'm my own ISP! You can be your sister's too! Feel free to contact me. I'm ready to offer you help and support regarding this at any time.

It's only what it is if that is what you think it is

It does have a DHCP server and does not issue a 169 address, it supplies a valid IP. The XP machine provides no gateway address to the 98 machine and never will acording to MS.

This behaviour is by design. It can be overcome on another XP machine but not by a Windows 98 machine.

Jimi_l