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Name: Facers
Date: April 8, 2009 at 08:02:05 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
Subcategory: Broadband
Comment:

I know a little bit about computers but unfortunately I've been having a terrible time trying to share my internet connection with my Xbox 360. I have a direct connection from my computer to my cable modem via usb. I want to share my internet to my Xbox by plugging it into my computer with a crossover cable. I spent countless hours trying to do everything to get it working and I was convinced I had it setup properly however no matter what I tried I couldn't resolve DNS servers on my Xbox.
Anyways, out of acts of desperation I installed a program called Wingate and it suddenly worked perfectly. I'm not sure what this Wingate program does or what it has changed to make it suddenly work like that and it's kind of annoying me. Anyways Wingate has a 30 day trial and when the trial is up I can't get a connection on my Xbox anymore. Can anyone maybe explain to me what Wingate changes that makes it suddenly work? Or does anyone know of a program that has similar functionality of Wingate and is free.

Thanks in advance



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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: April 8, 2009 at 08:16:34 Pacific
Reply:

did you ever try following this from xbox support?

http://support.xbox.com/support/en/...


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Response Number 2
Name: Facers
Date: April 8, 2009 at 09:28:58 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah I spent hours on end searching the internet for topics and info on how to get it to work. I'm just trying to understand what this Wingate program does that makes it suddenly work like that


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Response Number 3
Name: wanderer
Date: April 8, 2009 at 09:54:12 Pacific
Reply:

wingate is a proxy server that automates internet access via a host. Just like ICS does though it may not have the limitation ICS does concerning 192.168.0.x

what ip was on the nic to the 2nd pc?
what ip was on the nic to the internet?


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Response Number 4
Name: Facers
Date: April 8, 2009 at 11:08:46 Pacific
Reply:

I have only one connection via cable modem to my computer and IP etc is set to auto configure. The 2nd connection where I plug my xbox into my computer via the crossover cable is set to 192.168.0.1 and I have my Xbox set to 192.168.0.2.

In theory it should work and without Wingate it shows a connection on my Xbox but can't resolve DNS servers. When I install Wingate, I don't change a single thing and it automatically works


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Response Number 5
Name: wanderer
Date: April 8, 2009 at 11:15:24 Pacific
Reply:

what is the ip on the internet attached nic?????


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Response Number 6
Name: Facers
Date: April 8, 2009 at 14:09:35 Pacific
Reply:

what does nic mean?


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Response Number 7
Name: wanderer
Date: April 8, 2009 at 15:13:48 Pacific
Reply:

nic=network interface card
in your case its the usb connection to the modem

easiest way to provide the info needed is as follows;

go to Run and type in cmd then hit go [green button] or enter
in the black box type ipconfig /all
right mouse click on the top bar of the cmd box and select edit - select all
right mouse again and click on edit - copy
now paste the results into a post here.


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Response Number 8
Name: Facers
Date: April 8, 2009 at 15:16:18 Pacific
Reply:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Brian>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : face-sb10c70e9f
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : search.b.superkabel.de

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast Ethernet Ad
apter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-8F-19-18-AB

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : search.b.superkabel.de
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5121 USB Cable
Modem
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-AD-A7-ED-2A
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 91.64.247.187
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 91.64.247.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 83.169.184.50
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 83.169.184.33
83.169.184.97
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:04:58 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:34:58 AM

C:\Documents and Settings\Brian>


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Response Number 9
Name: wanderer
Date: April 8, 2009 at 16:15:53 Pacific
Reply:

This part looks good
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

but this doesn't
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

and there is no ip address. Thought you said you put in a static ip?

Reconnect the crossover cable from xbox to nic and assign the ips. Review the link to the xbox/ics doc I gave you if you have questions.


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Response Number 10
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 02:45:25 Pacific
Reply:

Ok sorry, I did ipconfig /all with my Xbox turned off. Here is how it looks with the Xbox turned on and connected:


C:\Documents and Settings\Brian>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : face-sb10c70e9f
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : search.b.superkabel.de

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast Ethernet Ad
apter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-8F-19-18-AB
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : search.b.superkabel.de
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5121 USB Cable
Modem
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-AD-A7-ED-2A
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 77.23.126.45
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 77.23.126.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 83.169.184.114
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 83.169.184.33
83.169.184.97
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:42:14 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:42:14 PM


C:\Documents and Settings\Brian>


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Response Number 11
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 06:38:08 Pacific
Reply:

Looks good. What is the ip of the xbox? Can you ping it from the host?


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Response Number 12
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 07:05:50 Pacific
Reply:

The IP of the Xbox is 192.168.0.2 and when I try to ping it I just get "Request timed out"


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Response Number 13
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 07:49:55 Pacific
Reply:

turn off or disable any software firewalls on the host pc and then try pinging again.

what is the gateway entry on the xbox?


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Response Number 14
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 08:49:02 Pacific
Reply:

With firewall disabled I still get nothing from pinging the Xbox and the gateway is 192.168.0.1


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Response Number 15
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 12:33:17 Pacific
Reply:

can you ping 77.23.126.254?


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Response Number 16
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 12:37:52 Pacific
Reply:

Yea pinging 77.23.126.254 works


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Response Number 17
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:00:13 Pacific
Reply:

And you have lites on the nics on both the xbox and the pc nic that are connected via crossover?

subnet mask on the xbox is 255.255.255.0?

is ping successful if you ping 192.168.0.1 on the pc?


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Response Number 18
Name: andynet
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:15:50 Pacific
Reply:

Are you sure you have the gateway and ip in the xbox correct, it is easy to do a 192.169.0.1 by mistake......for ex.

I take it you have enabled "allow other computers to share the internet through this computer" on the pc?

What is the LAN ip of the cable modem, yes cable modems have LAN ips??


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Response Number 19
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:17:36 Pacific
Reply:

yea it looks like it should all be in working order.

subnet mask on the xbox is 255.255.255.0

and ping is successful to 192.168.0.1


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Response Number 20
Name: andynet
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:31:57 Pacific
Reply:

Have a look here thre may be n answer, they talk about adding the peer-to-peer network service, in add/remove windows components ---> network services


http://www.anetforums.com/posts.asp...


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Response Number 21
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 13:53:56 Pacific
Reply:

Problem is pinging between xbox and host where ping is successful to both interfaces.

No services needed to be loaded to address that.

I am assuming this is the exact same cable you were using when it worked with Wingate?

Since you can't ping the xbox, firewall is off, it usually comes down to a bad cable or a bad nic.

Xbox works correctly if just connected to the modem [and set to dhcp]? If so that eliminates the xbox as the problem.

Then it comes down to nic or crossover cable. Do understand you can't use a regular patch cable between xbox/pc nics.


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Response Number 22
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 14:44:31 Pacific
Reply:

Yea the funny thing is, I am trying it with two different computers with exact same settings, and I have like 4 different cables, 2 different crossover cable, 1 cable that came with the xbox, and some random network cable. I tried on both computers with same settings and all different cables. I get same results every time without Wingate and the connection unable to resolve DNS servers, install wingate and it works instantly. Doesnt matter with which computer or cable i try results are always the same.


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Response Number 23
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 14:49:34 Pacific
Reply:

BTW, a lot of abuse on that link you posted xDDD


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Response Number 24
Name: andynet
Date: April 9, 2009 at 14:54:35 Pacific
Reply:

Can you replace the xbox with the other pc and see if it can access the internet... maybe there is something within the xbox, i really doubt it but might be worth a go...


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Response Number 25
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 15:00:48 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah good call, just tried it and it doesn't work :(


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Response Number 26
Name: andynet
Date: April 9, 2009 at 15:04:54 Pacific
Reply:

You are sure you have "allow others to connect to internet through this computer checked" ..?

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ai0rox.jpg


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Response Number 27
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 15:08:19 Pacific
Reply:

You need to configure the xbox back to dhcp not static if connecting to the modem

andynet until we can ping the xbox from the pc everything else is a moot point. Do you understand why?


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Response Number 28
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 15:11:44 Pacific
Reply:

Yea I checked the box to allow others to connect. I've shared an internet connection before with ICS and I really understand why it doesn't work with this setup


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Response Number 29
Name: andynet
Date: April 9, 2009 at 15:42:18 Pacific
Reply:

Whups i was skim reading as usual i thought you could ping.

Ok i see where you are, yes the obvious answer would be cable or NIC as wanderer said, but you have tried 4 cables and 2 NICs so weird. Will be interesting if you get an answer to it.


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Response Number 30
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 15:51:34 Pacific
Reply:

"I am trying it with two different computers with exact same settings, and I have like 4 different cables, 2 different crossover cable"

facers you need to be consistant in your setup. The above approach muddies the waters since now we have no idea what really worked so we could eliminate that from the list.

For example "Yeah good call, just tried it and it doesn't work "

Tried what? Tried the xbox direct to the modem or another pc?

We were good up to the point you can't ping the xbox from the host. Under these conditions you only have these choices as to what is wrong

1. wrong ip settings
2. wrong cable
3. bad nic or nics
4. software firewall blocking ping.

I suspect you are using the wrong cable. There is nothing wingate can do that can connect the xbox you can't ping from the host. Wingate is up the food chain from ping which is a very basic test of connectivity.

Unable to resolve dns servers message can be a number of things but you have to be able to ping between the xbox and pc before you can do anything else.

How are you determining you have a crossover cable(s)? Most folks don't even have one let alone two on hand.


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Response Number 31
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 15:57:07 Pacific
Reply:

What I tried was sharing the connection from the original PC to the 2nd PC with the same settings and it didn't work.

I am being consistent in my my setup. I have tried with two seperate computers and two different crossover cables, both of them with the exact same settings don't work however as soon as I install Wingate it somehow magically works.

If the problem were to do with the cable or the Network card then I would run into a problem on one PC and not the other. Hope you understand what i'm tyring to say, it's starting to get slightly confusing now :P


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Response Number 32
Name: wanderer
Date: April 9, 2009 at 16:17:06 Pacific
Reply:

How wingate can magically fix your present inablility to ping between interfaces is beyond me. Guess you need to buy wingate. Best of luck.


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Response Number 33
Name: andynet
Date: April 9, 2009 at 16:22:19 Pacific
Reply:

Actually here is a huge similar thread regarding AOL + PS2 + NIC to NIC and wingate fixed their problem, i just read a few posts but it seems as though the problem is @ the ISP end of things.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rem...


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Response Number 34
Name: Facers
Date: April 9, 2009 at 16:47:25 Pacific
Reply:

"How wingate can magically fix your present inablility to ping between interfaces is beyond me. Guess you need to buy wingate. Best of luck."

Yup and that's basically the question I been asking the whole time. Andynet just read your link and yea, maybe buying wingate is the answer :P

Ah well thanks for your time guys and hope its worth the money :P


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