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ICS - Firewall?

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Name: Okay-
Date: May 25, 2004 at 12:48:16 Pacific
OS: Win XP
CPU/Ram: 1.5\256
Comment:

Well, I'm running under ICS, so to speak, without any router(probably) and I want to configure it, though, I'm having some troubles:

A. I don't know how to disable the firewall, if I can.

B. When I'm trying to map ports(though the setting tab) it doesn't work at all.

C. I've been trying to download a tool from
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsconfiguration.htm

it says my ICS is not installed, so I can't really do anything with it.

Anyways, I would like to receive some help please, and if there is a way to disable that firewall, please mention it.




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Response Number 1
Name: Jamie_McCoy
Date: May 25, 2004 at 14:15:31 Pacific
Reply:

cant you 'right click' on the tray icon and click close, disable etc

failing that delete it from your start up items

and what do you mean map ports, i take it you computer acts as a gateway for other computers on your network?

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Response Number 2
Name: StuartS
Date: May 25, 2004 at 14:21:21 Pacific
Reply:

>> I'm running under ICS, so to speak <<

Either you are or you are not, no so to speak about it.

>> without any router(probably) << Why probably, either you are or you are not. If you do not know what it is you are running, nobody can help you.

You don't need ICS with a router. So if its telling you you do not have ICS installed, the you probably haven't and you are running router, probably.

Which firewall are you trying to disable? The one that comes standard with Windows XP which has nothing to do with ICS, or the one that is part of the router or a third party firewall?

More information required.

Stuart


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Response Number 3
Name: Okay-
Date: May 25, 2004 at 15:00:22 Pacific
Reply:

Stuar, I thought it says I don't have ICS installed due to XP or something..

No, I don't have a router, I'm sure about it. All of my network is based on ICS and sharing. I don't have a router.

I only have one box, which is my switch\hub and I have 2 network connections in my PC

As from what I've understood, ICS is another method for networking, just like router is. The ICS comes with a built-in firewall, if I am not mistaken, so I want to disable it.

So I want to disable\learn how to map ports in that specific Firewall.

Disabling it would do good, too.



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Response Number 4
Name: StuartS
Date: May 25, 2004 at 17:17:58 Pacific
Reply:

You are running under ICS but don't have ICS installed? Make your mind up. ICS is software. Either you have it installed or you don't. If you sone you are not running ICS.

There is no built in firewall with ICS.

Where is your modem plugged into? Are you using an Internal Modem? Is it cable, DSL or dial up?

To share an Internet connection with ICS, the modem has to be plugged into the host computer, not the hub/switch.


Stuart


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Response Number 5
Name: Dave02
Date: May 25, 2004 at 20:15:07 Pacific
Reply:

LOL. I think our friend is a little confused.
ICS is installed on the HOST PC. Which should be your XP PC.
It should be the one that is directly connected to the internet.
The other PC's are clients.
So you have a HOST/Client configuration.
When ICS is installed it is installed when you run the network setup wizard in My network places in the XP O.S.
As well as file sharing.
When ICS is installed then your HOST PC supplies the DHCP service.
So in reality. You don't need a router. So long as you have enough NIC cards in the HOST PC.
No. Depending on what O.S. the other PC's are running will determine how you run the network setup wizard on them.
The Client Machines should be set to obtain IP addy automatically.
And you should give each client the IP Gateway addy o0f your HOST PC. Which will be 192.168.0.1
Then you will need to give each client the DNS server IP's of you ISP.
Then reboot all of your PC's and all should be well.
You don't have to map anything, and you don't have to shut down your firewall.
You can also assign static IP's.
like:
192.168.0.2 and
192.168.0.3
just make sure you are under the same subnet mask for your network, which should be:
255.255.255.0
And the same workgroup name.
Like the default.
Which is MSHOME.


Good Luck.


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Response Number 6
Name: Okay-
Date: May 26, 2004 at 02:08:10 Pacific
Reply:

No, I am not confused:

Stuart;
I am using DSL, my share connection is connected to my host computer, I didn't say it is connected to my switch\hub, you thought so, don't blame me for misreading, please.


Dave02;
We are all running XP Pro, HOST\Clients,

You just don't get it, I know how to do a shared network\connection, that Network Wizard did it all. However, there is a firewall, if you are unaware for that fact, I suggest you to goggle, heck, I might be mistaking as well, but

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308127

that system didn't work well

Okay, then if you say there is no firewall, then can you explain me please, why lots of common ports that I want to open are closed?

Here are the facts;

A. My XP firewall is not running, the firewall that comes with the OS

B. There is NO firewall in my network that is screwing everything

If it is that simple, I'm dying for an answer. I have lotta of ports to open, both TCP\UDP
And yeah, I have the NIC cards in my host PC


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Response Number 7
Name: Sean Martin
Date: May 27, 2004 at 09:55:24 Pacific
Reply:

Hey everyone,

First, i comment on one of Stuarts replys; "There is no built in firewall with ICS."
That answer i feel would be not 100% correct. I say that, because with Internet Connection Sharing, it uses NAT, which is found in most routers, which does act as a firewall.

Second, I think all involved here may be a bit, well, not confused, just under a missunderstanding maybe.
'Okay', There is a difference between Internet Connection Sharing and the program you are refering to as ICS. I use to use The same program from the same website <a>href=http://www.practicallynetworked.com .That is a tool type program that makes it easier for a user to modify the Internet Connection Sharing program integraded in Windows. The integraded program HAS to be installed for the ICS addon to be able to do anything. As I said, I used to use it, but I used it in Win98se, and haven't tried it on XP. I do believe that in XP, in the properties for the network that is your internet connection, there are settings that can be modified to open up the ports for TCP and UDP protocols you mentioned. When you setup your network comnnection, did you check the correct box that says, "this computer connects to the internet, and other computer connect through this computer?" That will setup your o/s's ICS program.

>>Okay, then if you say there is no firewall, then can you explain me please, why lots of common ports that I want to open are closed?<<
I am thinking, you need to use the settings in XP in order to 'open' the ports you require opening. This following statment is copied from the practicallynetworked website: "(Sorry, but ICS Configuration works only with ICS for Win98SE or WinMe.)" <A>href=http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/ics.htm about half way down the page. Hope all this typing has helped if even a little bit.

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Response Number 8
Name: Sean Martin
Date: May 27, 2004 at 11:05:03 Pacific
Reply:

Ah, please forgive me for being ignorant about inserting links!! LOL Haven't played with HTML in about three years ur so.

Anyhow, try this link out, (or copy and paste if I fudge it up), it's related to built-in ICS for WinXP.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/

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Response Number 9
Name: OrionCA
Date: May 28, 2004 at 10:02:31 Pacific
Reply:

Down boys; you're confusing him.

By default all XP installations turn on an internal firewall. Doesn't matter if you enable ICS or not.

If you're using a host PC/server configuration instead of a router you really only need the firewall enabled on the host PC. The XP firewall, being pretty stupid, doesn't know it's on a LAN unless you tell it. So you have to go through the configuration wizard (look under HELP, "firewall") and set it up. Configure it to treat the IP range 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.255.255 as "local" or "trusted". 192.168.xxx.xxx is a default "internal" IP range used for LANs and ICS will drop all packets not originating in this range or not requested by clients.

(192.168.0.1 is the "gateway" IP address for the server, is assigned to the first NIC, and the LAN should never see data packets orginating from it. I always leave it in the "Internet" zone because it's just possible to spoof a packet through it if you have physical access to the host PC.)

As I said, you only need the firewall on the host PC but it doesn't hurt to leave these on as well IF you tell their firewalls that 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.255.255 are local, also.


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Response Number 10
Name: Okay-
Date: May 29, 2004 at 09:47:45 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Orion, but how exactly do I get to this wizard, where I do what you've told me to?

I don't know exactly about which wizard you're talking on.. or where the options are


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