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ICS absolutely refuses to work

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Name: PKK
Date: November 12, 2003 at 04:54:15 Pacific
OS: Windows ME
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon 1.2
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I just set up a network with Netgear products. I have a 814 wireless router, a MA111 wireless USB card for my ME computer and a FA311 ethernet (hardwired) card for my Win95 computer. The network was a piece of cake to install and works great except I can't get Internet connection sharing to work. I have tried 99 different configurations and nothing will work. I disabled the DHCP server on the router and tried to use the DHCP within ICS. ICS uses 192.168.0.1 which was what my router uses so I changed the router to 192.168.0.2 but still no luck. I can't even connect the host computer to the internet. If I fire up my browser it will cause the dial-up connection to dial but it won't ever transmit data. I have fiddled with the netork protocols and used Netbeui and tcp/ip and later just tcp/ip to simplify the configuration but nothing works. My WinMe trouble shooter says it detects that my DHCP server is not working but when I check the registry hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolset
\services\icsharing\settings\general it shows that DHCP is enabled. I have the appropriate tcp\ip(home) and tcp\ip(sharing) protocols in my network properties. I have tried minimum bindings (i.e. tcp\ip not bound to file and print sharing) and I've tried binding everything to everything, but nothing works. Has anyone got an idea what I can do to get this to work. I'm a country boy and I can't get broadband or dsl and I really wanted to share a dial-up via ICS. Any help would be appreciated.



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Response Number 1
Name: Curt R
Date: November 12, 2003 at 04:59:47 Pacific
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Try it without using DHCP. Statically assign IP addressing info to all clients and put the DNS addresses of your ISP's DNS servers in the client IP info at the same time. I've found ICS works best when you statically assign (I'm out in the country too, 30 miles from the nearest city and use ICS and that's how I have it set up)


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Response Number 2
Name: PKK
Date: November 12, 2003 at 05:08:48 Pacific
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Curt,
Could you be a little more specific. For instance, what about the host. At this point I can't even get it to work. This may be a dumb question, but is the host computer considered a client also? Would I have to configure the ISP's DNS's in it also. And what about the router. Would I try to assign it an IP or does it care? What would each device look like in the network properties? I would appreciate any help you can give me cause this is driving me batty.


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Response Number 3
Name: Curt R
Date: November 12, 2003 at 05:20:20 Pacific
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Nope, the host is the host. You enable ICS on the dialup and set your NIC statically to 192.168.0.1 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0

All your clients should be in the same range (ie: 192.168.0.2 .3 .4 etc) with the same subnet mask. You will want to give clients the gateway address: 192.168.0.1.

If you don't know the ISP's DNS address, connect to the dialup and open a command prompt window and type:
ipconfig /all
this will show you the DNS addresses. Those are the ones you add to the clients.

I just double checked and I did add the ISP's DNS addy's to the host's NIC IP info.

Oops! I didn't read your original post well enough, I didn't realize you were using a router. That does change things somewhat. I would disable DHCP on the router for sure. I'm not sure what else you may have to do with the router to make this work....I use a hub.

Give that a try though and see if that doesn't sort it out for you.


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Response Number 4
Name: PKK
Date: November 12, 2003 at 07:15:26 Pacific
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Curt,
I'll give this a try but I don't hold out much hope for it working. This, and most all the info I've found, is telling my how to get the clients working and I can't even get the host to work. I think I've tried adding the ISP's 2 DNS addresses in the host configuration properties and with the DHCP of the router disabled with no success. I've tried so many things since I started this Sunday that I'm not sure where I'm at. Today it's sunny outside and I think my mental health would appreciate some fresh air and sunshine so I probably won't tackle this frustration again till later today. Thanks for your help and I'll let you know if I have any success.


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Response Number 5
Name: Curt R
Date: November 12, 2003 at 11:48:30 Pacific
Reply:

Good thinking.....taking a break often makes a difference.

If it were me, I'd wipe all the present info out and start over from scratch. First, disconnect the host PC from the router. It shouldn't make any difference, but just in case, do it. Then configure the dialup on the host PC. Once you have that working for sure, then you can reconnect to the router and check to make sure it's still working on the host. Once you've done that and it is working, then you can try configuring ICS.

If the host PC can still connect to the internet after setting up ICS on it and connecting it back to the router, you're halfway there. Then try configuring clients one at a time.

Enjoy your sunny weather!


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Response Number 6
Name: PKK
Date: November 13, 2003 at 16:25:34 Pacific
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Yea me! After 3 days of stupid I've finally gotten it working. I did have to configure the IP addresses statically and disable DHCP in the router and in ICS before everything clicked but now this very second I am online at my client computer. Thanks a zillion Curt for all your help! However, besides the static IP configuration my biggest problem was just plain old stupid. It was ZoneAlarm all along causing the problem. I thought I had tried disabling it somewhere along the line but apparently I had not. I know I had 192.168.0.1 in the "Trusted zone" and I guess I thought that should allow any connections to work but that obviously isn't true. Now I just have to figure out how to tell Zone Alarm that it is OK for ICS Host to access the internet. Anybody know how to do that? My router has a firewall but I don't think it would hurt to use the software firewall of ZA also. TTFN


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Response Number 7
Name: Al
Date: November 14, 2003 at 06:33:56 Pacific
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I didn't think you used MS ICS if you had a router, is that not true? ICS acts as a router and the wireless router you already have is a router so you are duplicating effort needlessly. I don't use a router so clearing this up for me would be appreciated. for my education only, Al


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Response Number 8
Name: PKK
Date: November 14, 2003 at 08:18:49 Pacific
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Al,
You would be correct if I had a broadband\dsl connection but I live in the country and you can't get dsl and I'm not willing to pay DirectTV $600 for setup and $60/month for a satellite broadband account. Most all routers are setup for DSL but they don't allow you to share a dial-up account. That's where ICS comes in and once I have it setup it works beautifully. I probably wouldn't have needed the router except that it allows me to later upgrade to broadband if it is ever offered reasonably, I think it gives me an extra layer of security, and I needed some kind of hub, switch, accesspoint whatever to plug my old Win95 computer into because I couldn't find a wireless adapter for it locally. Besides that it was cheap. I bought it at Staples for $40 after the mail-in rebate. The router and both adapters only cost $90 (after rebate) and I now have wireless capabilities. I seem to be babbling now so I think I will just quit before I confuse me.


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Response Number 9
Name: eight
Date: November 24, 2003 at 16:59:10 Pacific
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This is a long response, but works. U will have to restart your computer maybe 3 times.
1st on your router switch USE DHCP. Change the IP of the router to 192.168.1.101 Then log back into your router using that address with whatever tool u use I use a web browser and have the Linksys befsr41 but it doesn't matter they all work much alike. next set ip range on router starting IP 192.168.1.100 and end range whatever you want make it. 192.168.1.120.
number of user 10 has equal total number of computer on your network or more.

OK on the client PC the pc using the Sat system and ICS Specify IP and make it 192.168.1.107 Submask 255.255.255.0 Restart option comes up yes when promted to replace files say no and keep curret files.... OK install ICS client using normal install method specified by your operating system.

Finally if you are not afraid to edit your registry. Make 1 change close and restart computer... This is the location and info to put in.

UNDER THIS SUB DIRECTORY TREE

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
system
services
ICSsharing
settings
general (catagory IntranetInfo)
Change value to this type exactly!!!!!!
Quote maks not needed
"192.168.1.107,255.255.255.0"
must use comma!
exit regedit restart computer..
If u are using the Direcway 2way system it will prompt u to correct ICS problems. select check box and ok then let the computer restart. Client computer plugs into port 1 on router NOT! wan port. On all other computers connected to router set Proxy to 192.168.1.107 port 85 good luck



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