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Name: foxxkat
Date: March 12, 2005 at 21:02:29 Pacific
OS: WinXP Pro
CPU/Ram: 933 512ram
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hi, everything used to work fine between desktop and my laptop. largely due to my own oversight.. i backup all stuffs but forgot to check on my network settings b4 i formatted desktop.

laptop is company asset so i can't change anything on it.. winxp SP1 and it's on a Domain asiapacific.cpqcorp.net, this laptop can surf net form home.

home dekstop however i'm not sure what settings i should use. remember though eveyrthing used to work fine beofre. after a fresh reinstall of winxp PRO, with SP2, desktop has not been able to see the laptop on home network (router) and likewise leptop cant see desktop.

i've checked thru practicallynetworked.com and wown.com

both machines have shared folders.
i've changed the desktop logon name and password to match the laptop's.
print and file sharing are enabled.
netbios enabled.

i need help on which settings to use on the desktop:
from the System Properties->Computer Name tab, do i click Network ID or Change.. ?

if i have to click Network ID, a wizard opos up and should i choose "This computer is part of busines..." or "This computer is for home use..."

if i need to set desktop on WORKGROUP, does it work? bcoz laptop is on a domain.
dang.. eveyrhting used to work fine.

i musta hav forgotten something else..

any feedbacks appreciated.

thanks,



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Response Number 1
Name: foxxkat
Date: March 12, 2005 at 21:12:13 Pacific
Reply:

wld like to add:

both machines can surf net using the same router.
both machines ip starts with 192.. and on same DNS and gateway.
both machines CANNOT see the other machine's shared folders, in fact both cant see the other machine.
on desktop, i understand when i goto My Network Places->Entire Network->Microsoft Windows Network->Workgroup i shd be able to see the shared folders on the dekstop machine..but instead it says "workgroup is not accessible. you might not hace persmission to use this network resource. contact the admin... the list of servers for this workgroup is not currently avaible"

both logins (desktop & laptop) are admins with full priviledges.

when i hit ctrl-alt-del on the desktop, i see Logon Information stating:
"koffice is logged on as KATXP\khome"

have change my username from khome to koffice to suit the laptop's logon. has it been really changed? if not how do i effectively change it?

thanks,


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Response Number 2
Name: sbeckley
Date: March 13, 2005 at 20:10:45 Pacific
Reply:

Let's start at the beginning. Let's try to see if the 2 pc's can communicate to each other. In case you don't know how to ping or send an ICMP message to the other computer, from Start>Run, type CMD and hit enter. At the command prompt or C:\?????> type ping 192.xxx.xxx.xxx where this is the IP address of the other computer. If you get 4 replies you are good, if you get 4 request timed out, you are not good.

Note there are remote access settings in the properties of My Computer and in the properties of the Local Area Network connection. Make sure those are turned on.

Once you've turned them on try going to Start>Run and type: \\192.xxx.xxx.xxx\C$ where 192.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of the other computer.

Post back and let me know what you get.

Good luck,
Toe_Cheese


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Response Number 3
Name: foxxkat
Date: March 14, 2005 at 04:11:11 Pacific
Reply:

hi, have done as described.

1. desktop able to ping laptop (4 good results)
2. laptop also able to ping desktop (4 good results)
3. then i check the Remote Access setting from Properties of My Computer, it was unchecked. i checked it. the laptop however was unchecked, but since it used to work before, i leave it as unchecked.
4. however i'm not able to find the Remoet Access setting from Local Area Network.. can't find where it is. isit Start->Settings->Network Connection->Local area Connection? well it's not found there.
5. in cmd console, typed in "\\192...\C$ and get "Logon failure: unknown username or bad password"

6. not sure what C$ means, so i tried sharing the whole C drive on laptop and tried again, same result.

SP2 firewall is off.

how should i proceed?
thanks,



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Response Number 4
Name: sbeckley
Date: March 14, 2005 at 07:13:46 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry Foxxkat but I'm heading off to work and I don't know if I'll be able to help anymore today.

Start>Run and Type gpedit.msc
In the windows settings>security settings>local policies for the local computer policy make sure the sharing and security model for local accounts is set to Classic logon. Try the \\192.xxx.xxx.xxx\C$ again to see if you can logon to the other computer. Another thing to check is that the Server service is enabled in Administrative Tools>Services.


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Response Number 5
Name: sbeckley
Date: March 14, 2005 at 08:04:04 Pacific
Reply:

Are you trying to add the other computer by using the Add Network Places wizard?


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Response Number 6
Name: foxxkat
Date: March 17, 2005 at 03:57:04 Pacific
Reply:

hi there.. last 2days been trying to get the gpedit.msc to work. for unknown reasons, i'm not able to scroll down the gpedit console. after scrolling down till about half way, pc freezed and have to do a hard reboot. well that's another problem..

so, wonder if there's another way to check sharing and security model for local accounts is set to Classic logon. perhaps via the registry?

or maybe if you know the exact subtree to this from the gpedit.msc console, can let me know? pc got frozen wen i was trying to find the windows settings>security settings>local policies you mentioned.. but b4 i can find it the pc went dead.

and yes, initially i wasn't using anywizard. but after all fails, i tried the network setup wizard. same results, fail to share things between 2 machines.

any suggestions appreciated.

thanks,


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Response Number 7
Name: tdierkes
Date: March 17, 2005 at 15:03:56 Pacific
Reply:

I have seen the same problem reproduced a number of times. I saw the change also invoked by Active Directory starting up @ the work place. Either that or it was quite a coincidence.

I am here not with the answer but because I am also looking.

On my own LAN, I can connect to shares if I first log on. I run a

net use \\machine /user:workgroup\username passwd

It was seldom this worked if I didn't start VPN first because after Active Directory was started, it always complained that a Log On Server could not be found.

Here is one suggestion....
Make sure your user id is the same and your password is in sync.

See if you can do the net use thing.

If you can, great. I see you were able to ping the ip address but I didn't see you were able to ping the computer's name. You can substitute the IP address for "hostname".

c$ is an admin share for the C: drive. A hidden admin share.

You may not be able to see your network neighborhood -- what I am researching, but you should get to where you can overcome the logon failure.

By the way, your username on your laptop is your company's domain\username.

Your username on the desktop is the workgroupname\username



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Response Number 8
Name: tdierkes
Date: March 17, 2005 at 15:55:01 Pacific
Reply:

I have done 2 things.

1st, I added netbios. By Default, this is not installed in WinXp. Older windows require it.

2nd, I created a local user with the same username and password as my business domain user name.

I still continue to log in on the domain and I have no intentions of ever logging in locally. It did make a "difference". Some I'm not too keen on, as my Notes Client now wants me to key in my password.

I can see things in network neighborhood IF I can find the Log On Server. That comes by starting VPN up. Why, I don't know, but I suspect Active Directory.


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