How to print using wireless laptop?

Local Company
May 2, 2006 at 12:30:49
Specs: XP SP2, Sempron 3100+/1.5 gigs

I have a Westell DSL modem connected to a Netgear router connected to my desktop PC via Ethernet cable. I also have a wireless laptop. Sometimes I can get internet on my laptop via wireless, other times I can't, even with a strong wireless connection. I also have ZoneAlarm, but it allows exception for the wireless IP. Can you tell me why the internet is fickle? Also, if I can get internet on my laptop, I would like to use my printer (USB cabled to my PC) to print things from the internet. How can I do this - I can't seem to share anything on this network...
Thanks, Noel

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#1
May 2, 2006 at 13:18:20

Hey, I noticed that your sig is showing a Sempron 3100+ at 1.5 GHZ? Is that correct?
Is it the Socket 754 sempron? It should run at 1.8GHZ if so.

Now, where is your router located relative to your laptop? Is it being used in close proximity to the router? That may help.
Walls and other radio signal blockers can cause these problems that you are discussing.

When you say you can't get internet, do you have an icon or error that says "no signal available?" Are you using 802.11G or B compatible card/router?
Are you using a WEP/WPA key? If not, it may be possible that you are experiencing a denial of service attack from someone hacking into your network either knowingly or un-knowingly.
A repeater can boost the strength of your signal, but keep in mind that your signal can be diminished by other intefering radio signals. (ie radio towers, televisions etc)
I would say try a hard-wire LAN connection (Cat 5 cable) and if you don't experience loss of connection, work on enhancing your signal, or working closer to the router where interference is minimal. Most claims of 200ft etc as far as distance, will not render the same results as indoor use.
Also, I believe that you need a network card in your printer which should be purchased separately to enable wireless printer networking.

Abit NF8
Sempron 64 3100+ @2.6GHZ
Thermaltake Big Typhoon
512 MB PC 3200 Ram
Windows XP Pro


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#2
May 2, 2006 at 14:04:46

Hi J-Micro,

Sorry about that 1.5 - I have 1.5 Megs memory, my CPU is 1.8 gigs...

About internet - I mean I can't browse the internet via Internet Explorer. It's a dead end. I did change from an unsecured net to WEP on your advice, but that makes no difference. My laptop is only 5 feet from my router :) Should work, eh? I do have a wireless net connection, though, just can't use IE for browsing! I was under impression from some other items on computing.net that you could share over wireless networks. I just can't figure out why mine doesn't work. I do have ZoneAlarm and Norton System Works, but thought I had exclusions set for ZA and NSW didn't initially get in the way of internet access... Not sure where to go from here just for browsing.

I did have a wired net before - cross-over cable hook up, but removed the PCI net card I installed for that and the cabling for it in preference to the router and an ethernet access on the motherboard. Still doesn't work :) :)

Thanks, Noel


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#3
May 2, 2006 at 17:13:47

Yes you can do all that you ask for with no additional equipment.

You have to configure ZA to "trust" your subnet not just your laptops ip. Lets say you have 192.168.0.1-->192.168.0.6 for pcs. You put that range in as trusted. Or add each and every host name and/or ip address as trusted.

I wouldn't run system works and I used to work for Symantec. The proportion of overhead to problems solved is no where near equal.

Until you get networking working my advice is unload all firewalls. This includes XP's and Norton/ZoneAlarm

On your pc SHARE your printer.
From your laptop ping the pcs ip that is sharing. Are you successful?
If yes then proceed to installing that printer on your laptop. Select network printer. Put in [\\sharing pc\printershare name] or browse to the pc with the shared printer.
Do a test page. You should print fine.

Then put back your firewalls. Configure them to trust your local subnet and you should be able to surf and print just fine.

Give a person a fish, they eat for a day. Suggest they internet search and they learn a skill for a lifetime.


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#4
May 3, 2006 at 07:19:05

Hi Wanderer,

Wow, I have a remote printer working now on the wireless net - I also have all my shared resources available in both directions... I did as you suggested - I shut off ZA on both the PC and the laptop as well as all NSW items that might interfere. Then I pinged my router and my pc from my laptop and got good responses. That did it for sharing!! BUT, I stilll can't get my laptop browser to go on the internet... how can I do that? Seems I was able to get the laptop's browser to work before, but it won't now. What's my next step - I still have ZA, etc. off until after I get success with IE.

Thanks for everything so far, Noel


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#5
May 3, 2006 at 09:19:11

When I had problems with my network in the past; it was due to Zonealarm not being configured properly. When I realized that it is always better to have all firewalls OFF when setting up a network, I also realized that I would need to re-setup the Network
using the network wizard, to solve problems with browsing the internet. Maybe that will help you.

Are you able to ping a website?
Type: Start> Run>
Type: "command"
At the C prompt type i.e:
(without the quotations)
"ping www.yahoo.com"

Are you able to ping the site successfully?
If not, there may be other problems.

Abit NF8
Sempron 64 3100+ @2.6GHZ
Thermaltake Big Typhoon
512 MB PC 3200 Ram
Windows XP Pro


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#6
May 3, 2006 at 09:40:53

J-Micro,

The laptop would not ping any browser sites... it does however share all my drives from my PC without any trouble and vice versa - and the printer! But it won't go on-line now. I have ZA and Norton configured for the router and the PC IPs, so I assume I should be able to get internet signal from the router. I'm doing a backup on the laptop right now, but will check my network setup on it again later this afternoon and get back with you then. Thanks for your help. Noel


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#7
May 3, 2006 at 12:42:39

okay, that's fine. Can you post a screen print of your firewall settings? (Trusted zone screenprint)

Abit NF8
Sempron 64 3100+ @2.6GHZ
Thermaltake Big Typhoon
512 MB PC 3200 Ram
Windows XP Pro


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#8
May 3, 2006 at 14:02:44

J-Micro,

Not sure how to paste it in here. I have a jpg image of the firewall settings, but it won't paste to this page. Help, Noel


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#9
May 4, 2006 at 07:02:35

J-Micro, I don't find any instructions on this website for posting images, so I'll do the next best thing - here is my replication of the ZA firewall exclusions:

ViaRhineIIFastEthernet Adapter 192.168.5.2/255.255.255.0 Adapter Subnet Internet

Loopback Adapter 127.0.0.1 IP Address Trusted

Gateway IPs 192.168.5.1-192.168.5.50 IP Range Trusted

The 1st 2 lines are put there by ZA, the 3rd is my attempt to include all possible Gateway IPs thru the gatreway router.

Noel



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#10
May 4, 2006 at 11:07:21

Can you try and enter just your main gateway IP and see if you can connect? Also, are you aware that if you use a WEP key, you also have to go into the configuration for your wireless card and enter it there, in order for your router to allow you on the network.

Matter of factly, can you connect a Cat 5 cable to your laptop and see if you can browse the internet? This would rule out DNS etc problems, on your PC...if you can connect that way.


Abit NF8
Sempron64 3100+ - 2.6GHZ
Thermaltake Big Typhoon
512 MB PC 3200 Ram
Radeon 9550 @ 460/560


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#11
May 4, 2006 at 15:07:57

J-Micro,

Tried a couple of things. First, I used cross cable from the router to my laptop and got a good connection, also put that IP in ZA as exclusion. I could ping the IP from the laptop but could't get any sharing with the PC. Nor could I use IE to access the web.

Second, with wireless network re-connected and cross cable unhooked, I could share files, print, ping, but still cannot use IE to browse the web. I even tried to use the shared PCs IE but it would not go on-line from the laptop (works fine from the PC).

So with the present ZA exclusions I have for wireless, I have everything - sharing, printing, pinging, EXCEPT NO laptop web. I don't understand it - As soon as I had connected wireless earlier this week, I could browse the web, now it's gone... Noel


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#12
May 4, 2006 at 15:19:50

J-Micro,

Found out one other thing - after I reconnected wireless, I didn't have sharing until I re-set up a new network. Seems the old MSHOME workgroup keeps intruding, so I have to do the network setup thing all over again to setup with my own workgroup name. I have the same problem with WEP keys, XP wants to revert to an old, bad one instead of a new good one... Can't erase the old parameters, they die hard with XP!! Noel


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