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Name: LeBabouin
Date: November 13, 2007 at 02:58:01 Pacific
OS: pro sp2
CPU/Ram: E6700/PC6400X2
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Hello again,

Will I gain any speed in a wired home lan by changing my 10/100 router for a "gigabyte" router?
(I have 4 HDD in RAID0 that show a average read speed of about 300 MB/s).

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Response Number 1
Name: Deathlyphil
Date: November 13, 2007 at 04:34:30 Pacific
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You probably will gain some speed assuming that all your pc's have gigabit network cards. If they don't then there isn't any point.

Also, possibly cheaper way of doing this than buying a Gb router, get a Gb switch, plug all your pc's into it, then connect it to your router. Unless you have 100Mb+ internet connection (very unlikely in a home situation) you wont get any slowdown surfing the net.


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Response Number 2
Name: Deathlyphil
Date: November 13, 2007 at 04:41:42 Pacific
Reply:

Re-reading your question, it all depends on what your current setup is. If it is simply pc->router->internet then a gigabit router wont make any difference as your max speed is determined by your ISP connection.

If you have multiple pc's and are sharing large files between them, then a gigabit router or switch will increase transfer speeds provided all the computers have gigabit network cards.

Hope this helps.


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Response Number 3
Name: LeBabouin
Date: November 13, 2007 at 05:36:32 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks alot for your pertinent answers.
I will get a 100Mb/s connection soon :) and have multiple pc's sharing files. I also use mstsc.exe to connect from other pc's of the home lan.

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Response Number 4
Name: Curt R
Date: November 13, 2007 at 06:37:10 Pacific
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(I have 4 HDD in RAID0 that show a average read speed of about 300 MB/s).

I hope you don't mind me jumping in here but if you're running a RAID 0, you had best have a very good backup scheme. RAID 0 offers no redundancy. Should you lose a disk, you lose all data on all disks.

If you're looking for speed, a RAID 1+0 would be your best option. Although in a RAID 1+0 configuration (assuming your controller is capable of it) you would only end up with the total of two disks as your drive size afterwards.

If speed's not as high a priority as redundancy, then put your 4 HDD's in a RAID 5 array. With a RAID 5, you would end up with the total of 3 of your HDD's as the drive size afterwards.

If you're using a onboard RAID controller, chances are it's basically a BIOS/software RAID. That's not that good either. For a real hardware RAID, you would want a separate RAID controller. I don't know if your controller is capable of a RAID 1+0, but I'd wager it's capable of a RAID 5 and I highly recommend you take a serious look at changing over to a RAID 5. At least with a RAID 5, should you lose a disk, it's not that big a deal. You replace the HDD and rebuild the RAID.


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Response Number 5
Name: jefro
Date: November 13, 2007 at 14:36:10 Pacific
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I doubt you'd see it but it should be there. It rather assumes a lot too.

You most likely could speed up your lan right now with simple tweaks.

We have argued the backplane speed of motherboards before. Unless you have a server running server level nic cards you may not get any benefit.

Never know, your old router may be very outdated too. It might not support what it claims.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 6
Name: LeBabouin
Date: November 13, 2007 at 16:24:26 Pacific
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So what would be the interest of producing PC motherboard with integrated gigabyte nic if it's only usefull for servers?
One of my pc's is dedicated to run game servers.

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Response Number 7
Name: jefro
Date: November 13, 2007 at 19:07:52 Pacific
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Then you should run performance monitor tests to determine your usage both before and after. Use metrics that relate to the entire nic useage. Only that way would you know of any improvement.

Don't ask me why anyone does stuff. Most likely a sales pitch I assume.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 8
Name: LeBabouin
Date: November 15, 2007 at 04:08:07 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for your advice.

"Don't ask me why anyone does stuff. Most likely a sales pitch I assume." Lol. That is what I'm afraid about.

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nVidia GeForce 7900 GTX
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Response Number 9
Name: Curt R
Date: November 15, 2007 at 12:51:46 Pacific
Reply:

It occured to me I never actually answered the question. So here goes:

Hello again,

Will I gain any speed in a wired home lan by changing my 10/100 router for a "gigabyte" router?
(I have 4 HDD in RAID0 that show a average read speed of about 300 MB/s).

I'm not sure if you can find a SOHO router that is gigabyte on the LAN side. If you can, it will certainly increase bandwidth on the LAN. Notice I said "bandwidth" and not "speed". Bandidth is not a measure of speed like miles per hour or kilometers per hour. It's a measure of how much data can flow past a specific point in a network in one second.

So, going from 100 Mbps to 1000 is a tenfold increase on the amount of data that can pass any point in your network in one second.

Having made that point, I'll get back to the original one, yes, that would improve network performance greatly. Especially in the case of moving large amounts of data between PC's. But, in order to attain a 1000 Mbps network, all PC's in your network would also have to have 1000 Mbps NIC's. If you only have one PC with a 1000 Mbps NIC, then it will talk to the switch at 1000 Mbps but the second the data leaves the switch to go to a PC with a 100 Mbps NIC, the transfer rate will drop to 100 Mbps.

It's worth noting though that this will not increase your internet bandwidth. It's limited to whatever package you're paying for. It's possible your ISP provides higher bandwidth packages (for a price of course) but I've never seen any home that exceed 10 Mbps and your present 100 Mbps SOHO router is easily capable of providing 10 times that amount of bandwidth.

If you can't find a SOHO router that can provide you with 1000 Mbps on the LAN side, you could buy a Gigabyte switch, plug all clients into it, and the switch in turn into a LAN port on the router (providing internet access to the LAN).

So what would be the interest of producing PC motherboard with integrated gigabyte nic if it's only usefull for servers?

The interest is rather self explanatory, to attain 1000 Mbps bandwidth....where possible with regard to the rest of the equipment in your network.

I do know that if you have a 100 Mbps switch/SOHO router you don't "gain" anything by having 1 GB NIC's on your PC's since they will only run at the speed of the slowest device (in this case, the 100 Mbps switch/SOHO router).

But as I said above, if all your PC's have 1000 Mbps NIC's and you buy a 1000 Mbps switch/SOHO router, then your LAN will run at 1000 Mbps.

Just FYI, this isn't restricted to servers.


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Response Number 10
Name: LeBabouin
Date: November 22, 2007 at 06:00:26 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you everybody! I can see quite clearly now.

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