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Name: picarules
Date: February 5, 2007 at 11:35:13 Pacific
OS: XP & Mac OS X
CPU/Ram: Pentium 805D / 3.6 GHz /
Product: Apple Mac G5
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Hello,

I have a small network consisting of an XT gateway on a
static WAN IP, a router, and two gigabit Ethernet switches
serving up to 12 stations. The gateway has two Ethernet
connections, one to the static IP and one to the router
(using two 192.168.4.xx addresses), which then does NAT
(using 192.168.0.xx addresses) to the LAN. This setup
works for sharing the static IP with the LAN.

I want to share two printers, one connected to the
gateway box via USB, and another with a LAN address
served by a Mac OS X box's print queue over Bonjour.

As it is, I have successfully shared the Mac's printer with
other XT and Mac boxes within the LAN. Now what I want
to do is share it with the gateway box, and to share the
gateway's printer with the LAN. I am guessing that there
will need to be different approaches for the two printers,
in that one is upstream and one downstream of the
router.

Is this totally wonky? Am I doing this the hard way? Even if
I am, I'd like to know if there is an answer without
reconfiguring the network.

TIA!


Joe Brown



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Response Number 1
Name: picarules
Date: February 5, 2007 at 11:56:46 Pacific
Reply:

I meant XP.


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Response Number 2
Name: wanderer
Date: February 5, 2007 at 12:18:36 Pacific
Reply:

Why would you slow your internet access down running thru a XP box when you have a router?

Proper setup should be internet<>router<>gig switches<>pcs/printers
this would also "share" your static ip address and reduce by 1 hop your internet access.

It would be easier for you to connect the printer to a pc in the .0.xx lan than the .4.xx side of the router.

But you should still be able to print from lan to this printer. Can you access the XP gateway pc from the .0.xx lan?

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Response Number 3
Name: picarules
Date: February 5, 2007 at 15:13:35 Pacific
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>>Why would you slow your internet access down running thru a XP box when you have a router?

Hmmm. I didn't think it would; I have (only) 5 Mb DSL, and was under the impression that this is slower even than 10BaseT. I want to run a proxy server on the gateway; therefore, it is between the LAN and the WAN.

>>It would be easier for you to connect the printer to a pc in the .0.xx lan than the .4.xx side of the router.

Well, one of them is. The one on the gateway, though, is primarily for "manager" use (the manager sits at the gateway). It's a color laser; the LAN printer is monochrome, and I intended it to be more readily accessible for less-privileged users.

>>Can you access the XP gateway pc from the .0.xx lan?

NO! That's a big part of my question...



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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: February 5, 2007 at 16:53:11 Pacific
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Can you ping the managers pc from the .0.x network?

A peer to peer network really only has local name resolution via broadcasts. Server/client has DNS and WINS servers to consult. You need name resolution across subnets without DNS or WINS.

Try putting a entry for the managers pc in the HOSTS file of a pc on the .0.x network. See if you can access the managers pc.


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Response Number 5
Name: wanderer
Date: February 6, 2007 at 09:14:39 Pacific
Reply:

Of course all your issues would be moot with a proper setup.

Internet<->router<->proxy<->switches<->pcs/printers

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Response Number 6
Name: picarules
Date: February 7, 2007 at 12:22:10 Pacific
Reply:

OK, I *almost* understand.

How, though, do I configure the outgoing Ethernet port on the manager station? Just as another DHCP client?


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Response Number 7
Name: picarules
Date: February 8, 2007 at 13:20:57 Pacific
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Wanderer-

I think one of the issues you brought up would *not* be moot in the correct setup--that of reducing Internet access by one hop...


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Response Number 8
Name: picarules
Date: February 8, 2007 at 13:24:20 Pacific
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And one more...wouldn't the proper setup still "slow down internet access"? Isn't there a valid justification for it, even if it does?


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Response Number 9
Name: picarules
Date: February 8, 2007 at 14:12:10 Pacific
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And one more...wouldn't the proper setup still "slow down internet access"? Isn't there a valid justification for it, even if it does?


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