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Hi everyone,
I'm a real noob at networking, so i apologise in advance!
I'm trying to connect my laptop to our desktop just to transfer some data. I followed all the steps in the XP wizard... plugged in the cable when it said... nothing happened!! It only says 'network cable disconnected'
Both the network cards are working, and the cable is fine, can anyone help me??
Thanks in advance for any help! :D
~Simon
ps: Sorry if this question has already been answered.
It's an ethernet cable (is this the right type?), I *think the cards are working because they both connect to our Cable/dsl router with no probs. When i connect the two computers together, they just don't connect =S
Thanks for the help so far,
~Simon
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Hi,
I'm not up to snuff on routers, but for a HUB the cable for HUB to NIC [network card] is straight. But for NIC to NIC, you need a "crossover cable".
Are you trying to use the router to NIC cable?
Do you know if it's straight or cross-over?
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Hi,
There's two types?? LOL, perhaps that's why it's not working. I'm not sure what type the cable is, so i took a couple of pics for you!
http://img7.echo.cx/img7/2079/p3230039small4jr.jpg
http://img210.echo.cx/img210/7128/p3230040small2kt.jpgThanks =D
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If I remember right that looks like NOT a cross-over.
It's difficult, at best, to tell by looking.
If you're close enough to a decent shop or store, take a cable in and ask them to test it.
Takes about 20 secands.
If they start to squirm, tell them your situation and that if this is not an x-over, you'll buy one. Better yet, just an adaptor which changes striaght to x-over.
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You can tell a crossover cable by looking at the colour sequence in the plugs. If put the two plugs side by side and the colour sequence of both is the same then you have a straight through cable. If one is different than the other then you have a crossover.
Another way to test is to simply plug the cable into the NIC at both ends. If the links lights comes on then you are fine. If no link lights or the link light only lights one one NIC then nothing will work until both link lights are lit. The link light is not dependant on any software configuration, it is entirely a hardware test.
Stuart
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Hi Stuart,
Thanks. I was hoping you or Bryan would jump in. It's been a long time since I made any cables.
:0)
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Ok, thanks for all the help, i'll go and get the cable on monday.
Stuwart, can you tell me the colour sequence for the cable i need? I could modify the one i already have. At the moment the colour sequences are the same on both ends.
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I don't think you want to go through all that, especially with no crimper.
But:
http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm
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Cool, all done!!
It works now, I took a pic to show the modification i made to the cable, since i only ever use the cable occasionally, it doesn't matter about the messy wires
http://img100.echo.cx/img100/6426/p3230044small4dv.jpg
Once again, thanks soo much for the help!!
~Simon
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One more thing:
Now i've got the 2 computers connected, (the desktop is using internet through my laptop) how do i trasfer files between the 2 computers??
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Hi ~Simon,
Boy, that's ugly.
Good work.
What's the deal on that site? I could use some space to hang pictures.
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www.imageshack.us
It's a great site, i'm not sure how long they host ur pictures, but it's a long time!!
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Please help!!!!
I supposedly got the two computers networked now. I set it up so the desktop is accessing the internet through my laptop, and that's working ok. (My cable works wOOt!!)
I've got some HUGE files that i want to transfer from the desktop to my laptop (huge being 4.5gb .iso files)
...but in 'my network places,' when i click 'view workgroup computers,' nothing happens, and i get a message saying:
"Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available."
If anyone knows how to sort this please say!!
Thanks again for everything so far.
~Simon
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Hi Madmanwithshotgun,
This may not do anything to help you with your other issue above but I wanted to clarify something.
Stuart wrote You can tell a crossover cable by looking at the colour sequence in the plugs.
While I was at CompUSA, I happened to examine a crossover cable. I noticed that the cables are prominently marked CROSSOVER every 10 or 12 inches apart along the cable length. I don't know if it's a manufacturing standard or just the particular brand wanting to be better than the other competitors.
i_XpUser
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Hey xpuser,
I had a look at the cable, and it 'originally' wasn't a crossover cable... it is now =D
http://img100.echo.cx/img100/6426/p3230044small4dv.jpg
I love modifying things.
I'm really stuck though, i don't know how to send files from the desktop to my laptop now i've got the connection working. =(
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XP User
I think this was just the manufacture being a little to clever. Dumbing down to the lowest common denominator.
The only difference between a crossover cable and a straight through cable is the way the plug is wired at one end.
There is nothing to stop someone cutting the effected plug of and connecting another straight through and it is no longer a cross-over cable. The easiest thing to do is put a tag on the cable so that is it is changed the tag can be removed and replaced with something more appropriate.
http://www.racktech.co.uk/
It's the same difference between a standard RS232 cable and an Null modem cable. The cable is the same, its just the way the plugs are wired.
Stuart
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slightly puzzled. if you have both of these hooked up to a router cant you just share them through the router?
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Simon,
There are many different reasons for that error message (mshome) to appear. For a quick-fix, use this excellent piece of freeware:
Make sure the firewall isn't blocking whichever port you choose. To find out the IP address of each computer, either look in the Network Status or type ipconfig at a Command Prompt.
It works really well for me on my 100 Mbps Ethernet.
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Madmanwithashotgun,
Yes, there was no need to do a direct connection in order to share files between the computers. Go back to connecting them to your router.
Have you enabled file and printer sharing on the computers AND have you created any shares???
Michael J
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