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Name: ray96
Date: April 15, 2005 at 15:27:37 Pacific
OS: Windows 98 FE
CPU/Ram: 256MB RAM Cyrix 250MHz
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Hi all. I don't know if I made a mistake here or not, but it looks like I have. I am new to networks, so bear with me.

I have one desktop, and one laptop. The laptop is running Windows XP, and the desktop is running 98. I want to share an internet connection wirelessly from my desktop, to the laptop. BUT, my desktop, has an INTERNAL 56K modem. Here is my problem:

I just bought one wireless card for the laptop. Plugged it in, set up the software, and looked like everything was ready to go. So I went, and got my new wireless router out of the box. Went to the desktop computer, and read the directions. It only talked about broadband and cable internet connections! So, is there any way that I can hook my wireless router to my internal 56K modem? Sounds like a stupid question I know, but I thought for sure I read the box before i bought it! I thought for sure that I got the right product. Someone please help me on how to get my wireless router connected to my internet connection. Thanks for your help.



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Response Number 1
Name: XpUser
Date: April 15, 2005 at 17:15:38 Pacific
Reply:

It will not work with an internal modem. Don't you have built-in NIC and DSL or cable?

i_XpUser


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Response Number 2
Name: TerryNet
Date: April 15, 2005 at 17:31:46 Pacific
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If your desktop has a NIC (Network Interface Card; the port looks like the phone port but is wider) you could connect it to the router via ethernet (Cat 5) cable (assuming your wireless router also has ethernet port(s)). Windows XP has something called ICS (Internet Connection Service)--read about it in Windows Help--but I don't know if it will work with W 98 supplying the internet connection. If ICS does not work on W 98, I think you are out of luck. There should be others with more knowledge about this than me.

Terry


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Response Number 3
Name: ray96
Date: April 15, 2005 at 19:01:16 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you all for your replies! Ya'll are helping me out. I don't know if you are still monitoring this post or not, but can I use a PCI Network Adapter to connect the router to the internet? If so, how? Thank You!

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Response Number 4
Name: XpUser
Date: April 15, 2005 at 19:14:52 Pacific
Reply:

Do you have DSL or cable?

i_XpUser


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Response Number 5
Name: ray96
Date: April 15, 2005 at 21:18:37 Pacific
Reply:

Dial-Up, as mentioned above.

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Response Number 6
Name: crinel
Date: April 16, 2005 at 03:55:01 Pacific
Reply:

It will work if you're patient. I have the same configuration and it works perfectly. I've found this the hard way from my router helpdesk.

My desktop is connected by a straight cable to my wireless D-link router (in one of the 4 spare LAN ports). Then My laptop is connected wirelss to the same router.

All you need to do is to assign manually soem IP addresses to each of your cpmputers inclusing your router and enable DHCP on your router.

Do the following things:
Go in your LAN connection, right click, proprieties and in TCP/IP and type 192.168.0.1 as Desktop IP address; the sub mask will be 255.255.255.0 click ok and close this tab. Restrt the desktop.

Now go in your router and type in the LAN tab this IP address: 192.168.0.2 with the same sub mask 255.255.255.0. Restart it too.

Then go in your laptop LAN proprieties and type in this IP addess: 182.168.0.3 with the same sub mask 255.255.255.0 BUT TYPE HERE THIS GATEWAY: 192.168.0.1 (which is actually your desktop IP Address).

Then go into your router and enable DHCP from say 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.222

Try to restart everything and then browse the net. If it doesn't go you may need to manually specify your DNS (option one and two). Usually you can find this info from your ISP provider. If they won't give it to you need to connect to internet via your dial-up on your Desktop, then go on start/run/cmd click ok type IPCONFIG /ALL hit enter and there you are. All your IP addresses, sub masks and DNS info islisted thee. You note it down on a piece of paper and then type it in on all your computers (desktop and Laptop) in the same tab where you typed in manually each IP address. Sounds complicated but is not.

Tell me if you managed to do it. If not, flick me an e-mail (crinel@hotmail.com) and we can use MSM messenger to walk you through this setup. Trust me it works!

Good luck!

Punk_Dude


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Response Number 7
Name: XpUser
Date: April 16, 2005 at 08:02:48 Pacific
Reply:

ray96,

As long as you only have a modem, nothing above will work for you. The modem and NIC are two different things. Is there any reason why you do not want to obtain DSL or cable service?


i_XpUser


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Response Number 8
Name: TerryNet
Date: April 16, 2005 at 11:54:44 Pacific
Reply:

There's no reason why Punk_Dude's method will not work IF Windows 98 supports ICS. It should also work if the router assigns IP addresses and both computers are set to acquire IP addresses automatically.

Terry


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Response Number 9
Name: ray96
Date: April 16, 2005 at 12:44:08 Pacific
Reply:

Hi again. If you all are still monitoring this post, please continue to write!

I might have made another mistake, lol. I just took the router back to the store, and bought a PCI Network Card for the desktop computer. I just want to share files right now. I read that two network cards can communicate using technology called "ad-hoc". Anybody heard of that? I read that computers using ad-hoc don't need to use routers. They just communicate back and forth. Is this a "wiser" decision? I don't want DSL because its too expensive, and the modem is even more expensive. Thanks!


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Response Number 10
Name: ray96
Date: April 16, 2005 at 12:46:05 Pacific
Reply:

One correction here: The PCI Network Card is really a Wireless PCI Network Card. Sorry.


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Response Number 11
Name: crinel
Date: April 16, 2005 at 15:16:44 Pacific
Reply:

That's possible too, ray.
Set manually the IP addesses and use the desktop as the gateway and it will work not only to flick files in between but share the Internet as well.

Set the desktop as previously requesteed:
IP: 192.168.0.1
Sub mask: 192.168.0.1

In wirelss conection set IP 192.168.0.2
sub mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.1

it should work.
Regards,

Punk_Dude


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Response Number 12
Name: crinel
Date: April 16, 2005 at 15:20:39 Pacific
Reply:

I've made a mistake too:
Desktop:
IP 192.168.0.1
Sub mask: 255.255.255.0


Laptop:
IP: 192.168.0.2
Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1

Hope it works now! Sorry for the mess.


Punk_Dude


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Response Number 13
Name: ray96
Date: April 16, 2005 at 16:37:44 Pacific
Reply:

Guess what guys? I have now got it set up!!! I have 1 wireless laptop adapter, and 1 Wireless PCI Adapter. Since I have just 54MBps, it works at the full speed, and is blazing compared to my old direct cable, lol. Now I need to know how to share internet. Thank you guys for all of your help!!!!!!!


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Response Number 14
Name: TerryNet
Date: April 16, 2005 at 19:04:58 Pacific
Reply:

Windows XP has something called ICS (Internet Connection Service)--read about it in Windows Help--but I don't know if it will work with W98 supplying the internet connection. If ICS does not work on W 98, I think you are out of luck. To try it run the "Set up a home or small office network" wizard on the XP machine, saying that this machine gets its internet from another computer on the network. Make a disk at the end. Using the disk, run the wizard on the W98 machine, saying that this computer shares its internet connection. Good luck.

Terry


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Response Number 15
Name: zerolog
Date: April 23, 2005 at 09:19:53 Pacific
Reply:

hi everyone,
got a problem with win98 and wireless connection. I cannot get intenet to work i have installed wireless card and input router info this seems fine as wireless software on 98 computer is showing signals at 100% but i still cant connect to the net, explorer keeps showing page not found. I think the problem must be something right in front of me but i've all but give up trying to sus it out...........anyone got any ideas would love to here them.

Zee!


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peace.

zero


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Response Number 16
Name: TerryNet
Date: April 23, 2005 at 09:43:00 Pacific
Reply:

Since your original post there have been a lot of changes to your setup and problem(s) description. Is the following setup description correct?

You have a wireless adhoc network between a W98 and an XP computer. You can share files across this network. Your internet connection is via dial-up modem on the W98 PC.

Now what is your current problem? Your dial-up internet connection on the W98 is no longer working? Or, it is working, but you can't use it from the XP? If the latter, what have you done to attempt to set up the internet sharing?

Terry


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Response Number 17
Name: MikeG
Date: May 25, 2005 at 16:18:02 Pacific
Reply:

ICS WILL work on Win 98 as long as you have Win 98 SE (second edition). Check to see if your desktop has that first before you go further.

-MikeG

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