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Name: tonybox
Date: March 4, 2005 at 06:26:19 Pacific
OS: Windows XP SP2
CPU/Ram: Athlon 1800/ 756MB
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Hello,
I know it's been asked before, but I still can't seem to figure it out exactly. Inorder to make a crossover cable do I just move switch the 1 and 3 wire on one side and then the 2 and 6 wire on the other. I've never made a cable before so if I have it all wrong, if someone could possibly explain it in layman's terms that would be much appreciated. Also will this cable work with an XP machine and one with WIN98? Thanks



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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 4, 2005 at 07:22:51 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.perfectdrivers.com/howto/crossover.html

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 2
Name: tonybox
Date: March 4, 2005 at 08:14:18 Pacific
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Thanks for the link...do you know where i can find the rj45 connectors cheap??? also will this cable work between an xp and win98 machine. what is needed to set them up. thanks again!


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Response Number 3
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 4, 2005 at 08:53:49 Pacific
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Ethernet is a different layer in OSI model than your OS. Translation, it's irrelevant what OS you run. It will work if done right. Simply set static ip's on the same network. 192.168.0.1 & 192.168.0.2, subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 for both. If you're not getting on the internet, no need to set default gateway or dns servers.

Check radio shack, Lowe's, Home Depot, electrical wiring shops, any of which should have connectors.

You DO know you can just buy a crossover cable premade, right?

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 4
Name: tonybox
Date: March 4, 2005 at 09:15:44 Pacific
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Thanks....yeah i know I can buy one, but i've got a hole bunch of cat5 cable just laying around and I figured i'd save myself a few buck and just trying making one. Thanks for the advise, I really appreciate it!


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Response Number 5
Name: iamc
Date: March 4, 2005 at 09:17:43 Pacific

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Response Number 6
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 4, 2005 at 09:27:59 Pacific
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http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=12-117-818&depa=0

Buying connectors won't be much less. :-/

Do you have a good crimper tool yet?

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 7
Name: tonybox
Date: March 4, 2005 at 09:36:56 Pacific
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no, i just have a regular cheap wire stripper/crimper...you think it might be easier if i just cut a patch cable in half and spliced it the same on one side and on the other side spliced the wires in the crossover configuration?


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Response Number 8
Name: StuartS
Date: March 4, 2005 at 10:11:59 Pacific
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That would work providing you don't mind having a slow and erratic network. Splicing Cat5 cable is not to be recommended.

Stuart


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Response Number 9
Name: kmevanszoo
Date: March 4, 2005 at 10:12:21 Pacific
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Just buy the premade crossover cable.

By the time you buy the crimper and RJ-45s, you could have bought one. In addition, the newer premade patch cables are made of stranded wire while your roll or excess CAT 5 wire is not. More flexability in the premade cables.

While technically you could "splice" the wires, it would probably give you more trouble than it's worth.


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Response Number 10
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 4, 2005 at 10:21:21 Pacific
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I look at it this way...

Time to make your crossover cable when you've never done it before? Let's just say 30 minutes for the whole thing. It very well may take you a lot longer. I bet it's gonna cause you a lot of grief with a cheap crimper.

Connectors are $5.

Minimum wage is $5.25 an hour. You lost a half an hour working at McDonald's, which would be $2.50 roughly. Grand total is $7.25, and that's if you can do the cable in 30 minutes, which I'm betting against.

25ft crossover cable is $8.50 shipped. It WILL work, no doubt. Plus, I didn't even try to find a better price! ;-)

Don't splice! If you need remotely any distance for a cable, it's gonna work like dog crap.

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 11
Name: tonybox
Date: March 4, 2005 at 10:44:13 Pacific
Reply:

I guess that answeres my question. I guess i'll spring for the cable and make things easy. Thanks to all for the advice.


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