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Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 10:20:30 Pacific
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I would really like to know how to setup port forwarding at my work office. I need to get pcanywhere working, and i can't with this new router. Please help



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Response Number 1
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 10:52:59 Pacific
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It might be better if you setup a VPN (IPSec) on your Cisco router other then using port forwarding ,it could open holes on your network for attacks.

You can use something like SSH Sentinel or some other IPSec client on your windows machine to connect to your network. I would setup IPSec for road warrior. There are many docs on the web and Cisco site to help you with this task.


http://www.ssh.com/download/



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Response Number 2
Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:05:11 Pacific
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well, i thought about that, but my boss didn't want to settup VPN for whatever reason. He didn't want to change our current system. Before we got the cisco router, we had an ISDN router with port forwarding, and he wanted to keep it that way. And, even if i can convince him to go with the VPN, then i'd still like to know how to do it, just for person information.


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Response Number 3
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:13:31 Pacific
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Your not changing anything, it would give you more security , you can even map drives, print..etc.... without worring of being hacked., did you try searching on Cisco site for your answer. I found it on the Cisco site, but the url is to long of a post.


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Response Number 4
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:28:19 Pacific
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At home I have a DSL router that has IPSec and PPTP Server in the DSL router and I use IPSec all the time, thats how I connect to my LAN many many miles away and it work GREAT. My DSL also has a Stateful firewall and it configured right,so BYE BYE hackers..


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Response Number 5
Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:37:05 Pacific
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I need to access this from the outside, i only have the one router, and i need to access our pcanywhere computer from home. How do i do that, cause VPN only works between 2 routers doesn't it? If i'm wrong please correct me, i'm VERY new to this whole deal


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Response Number 6
Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:42:42 Pacific
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well, i just remembered, i have 3 pcanywhere computers running on the network that need to be accessed, and one of them has to be pcanywhere because it's a computer settup for our phone and copier system, and the people who set it up requere pcanywhere, so i still need to know how to use port forwarding.


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Response Number 7
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:48:47 Pacific
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You can do these three things


Computer to Network
Computer to Computer
Network to Network

Your case, you would use computer to network and it's called road warrior setup, and it work GREAT. port forwarding is okay, but IPSec or PPTP is 100 percent better from a security point. You have the router already in place all you need to do is download SSH Sentinel for your windows client, BELIEVE ME IT WORK GREAT!!!!!!!!!


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Response Number 8
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:53:09 Pacific
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It does not matter , using IPSec is like connecting to your LAN as if your were right there at the office and you can still use PcAnywhere if you want to..


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Response Number 9
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:56:25 Pacific
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You don't need port forwarding , port forwarding is like this:

computer (port 80) ----> router(30000) it just re-maps the port to another port number, but it can still be scaned by hacker.


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Response Number 10
Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 12:57:54 Pacific
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the point still stands though, those guys need to use pcanywhere to connect to their computer, and they won't want to use anything else. They're on a one track mind, but i think you have convinced me to use SSH Sentinel for everything else. And i searched cisco for port forwarding, and i couldn't find anything


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Response Number 11
Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:00:24 Pacific
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does'nt port forwarding work like, i send a request for port 80 to my router's ip and then that request is forwarded to, in this case, the pcanywhere server?


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Response Number 12
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:04:30 Pacific
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pcanywhere i believe works on port TCP 5190? how do you want to forward that? give me an example?


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Response Number 13
Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:07:51 Pacific
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i'm sitting at home with my pcanywhere... I set it up to connect to my routers ip address, and i want the router to forward that request to my pcanywhere host. I did that with the old router, and i'm pretty sure it's possible with this one, i just don't know how


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Response Number 14
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:08:08 Pacific
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they still can use pcanywhere or whatever the feel like, but it's how they are connecting to the network changes, like there at the office. all your changing is the method and how the connect, nothing else.


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Response Number 15
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:12:16 Pacific
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Thats not port forwrding, thats NATing or setting-up a static NAT..

computer(10.1.1.1)--->(router)12.1.1.1
Nat table
10.1.1.1 static nated to 50.1.1.3

your nated pool is
50.1.1.1 -50.1.1.30 (example)

POOR Design, not good way to do business...


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Response Number 16
Name: z8_icles
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:13:08 Pacific
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yeah, i guess you're right, i would still like to know how to do it thought, but thanks for the tips, i'm pretty sure i'm going with IPSec for my stuff at least


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Response Number 17
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:16:00 Pacific
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I am telling you DON"T do that, you will be hacked.. I know of a company that did that and they were hacked.. I had to fix there problem, what a mess that was.


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Response Number 18
Name: Brian
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:20:09 Pacific
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You have that good 1720 VPN router, USE IT , thats what it for . Setup a good firewall on the router and open ports for GRE and a few others which I don't remember off hand and setup a VPN(IPSec)connection. They can still use pcanywhere into your network with IPSec.


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Response Number 19
Name: joe smith
Date: June 24, 2002 at 13:43:13 Pacific
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#conf t
#(config) ip nat inside source static 10.10.2.1 10.100.0.51

where 10.10.2.1 is the pcanywhere pc's IP and 10.100.0.51 is the real IP.

That gives you a 1-to-1 NAT and little security.


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Response Number 20
Name: davidc
Date: July 29, 2002 at 21:56:46 Pacific
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can you do 'port forwarding' on overloaded nat?

e.g. internal network is 192.168.1.0/24, router external ip is 66.55.44.33, all the internal hosts are overloaded onto 66.55.44.33

can you then set it up so that someone connecting from the outside to port 5900 on 66.55.44.33 would be translated to internal host 192.168.1.13 port 5900?

thanks


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