>> And to be honest there was never a class on it. I thought saying that would get more attention as ive made a previous post with no replies. << You are not thinking of going into politics are you? Because if you are you have certainly shown one of the main attributes need to be a successful politician. Making false statements in order to get attention is a really good start. Stuart

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"Probably because you're a student. Just wait until you get out into the "Real" world. :)" O beleive me i know what the real world is like already. my point was direct more towards sumone on the internet in a forum directed at offering help in this category giving responses that in no way helps the situation. Kinda what mommy told you when you were little "if you dont have anything good to say then you probaly shudnt b saying it" And to kurt thats probaly true. Once again its not administration thats allowing this its a bunch of other students that did it since the beginning of the year and i figured what the hell...the schools already scamming me out of enough money as it is. And its not at all like i broke into their "security", rather changed a setting on my computer that bypassed what their security intended to secure. A setting that maybe have been required to acces say a connection at home. Should the situation arise not like they can track me down anyway as there is nothing on my laptop that can trace back to me (and yes i kno for a fact there isnt). I didnt really come on here for an argument so i guess this thread is as good as dead.

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I think it is more of an issue that you are asking how to defeat security. My suggestion would be to ask another student/professor/admin for the correct way to access the resources. Many places have how-to's online with step by step instructions. It may be that the people here have been rather rough with you. In fact they might keep you in school. Many places do have ways to track use. Pretty sure we'd hate to be the people who got you kicked out of school. I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.

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Once again its not administration thats allowing this its a bunch of other students that did it since the beginning of the year and i figured what the hell...the schools already scamming me out of enough money as it is. And its not at all like i broke into their "security", rather changed a setting on my computer that bypassed what their security intended to secure. Obviously your reading skills are as poor as your spelling and grammar. It's Curt with a "C". To quote my father, "If your friends all jumped off a bridge, would you?" Of course, being a smartaleck punk at the time my reply was always, "Sure, why not" Of course, that was just to aggravate him. I'm not stupid. I'm a network technician in a university. I'm one of the guys that not only puts that type of security in place. I also monitor for exactly the type of activity you're talking about. Depending on the IT people at your college, it may take them a while to catch on that students are bypassing their security....but if they're any good, they will catch on. The question now becomes, do you want to become one of the students expelled (without refund) for doing something that's against the "appropriate network/computer usage" policy you no doubt signed off on after you were supposed to read it? We had an incident here with someone who decided he wanted to use his own personal laptop at work. That's against our policy (this is staff too, not a student). He also decided he didn't want to have to plug his personal PC into a wall jack so he brought along a wireless SOHO router from home. He knew enough to put his PC's IP into the router for it's external IP and then set it to DHCP so his laptop could connect. Within about 10 minutes of him doing so, my wireless alert monitor notified me of a rogue wireless within our network and proceeded to jam the signal (gotta love our enterprise wireless equipment!). Within 30 minutes our helpdesk got a call that claimed the "network isn't working". As soon as the case came up on my desk, I knew who the culprit was. I immediately notified my superior who then called his. The director of the computing services department then notified the HR department and within 15 minutes me, the CS director and the HR director walked into his office. Within 10 minutes of that, he was escorted out the door. Luckily for him, that wasn't illegal or the police would have been called and he would have been arrested as well as fired. This was staff. Had he been a student, he would have been expelled as well, with no refund. Should the situation arise not like they can track me down anyway as there is nothing on my laptop that can trace back to me (and yes i kno for a fact there isnt). How little you know. There are ways to trace you, trust me. But as you pointed out, you're a big boy now so do what you want. Just keep in mind, should you get caught and expelled, don't whine and cry about it and blame others for your actions. As the saying goes, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime"

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Curt, I think we can ignore this OP. He knows very little. Here is why. i_Xp/VistaUser

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LOL - I was just hoping to pass along some "sense" and possibly save him some trouble.

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"Obviously your reading skills are as poor as your spelling and grammar. It's Curt with a "C"." Well to be honest i didnt really care how it was spelled nor do i care about formatting anything on here with proper structure as its a forum...people have better things to do with their lives or at least id hope so. And who even said im doing this because sumone else is. Maybe its your reading skills that are poor. I saw an opportunity and i took it. And i understand what your trying to say but if the people at IT really cared about this then they would have made a step since over 2 years ago. Its really a 'scam' so you would rent their laptops for 1500 a year and get their wireless connection (and when your a student taking loans to pay for your education its not really affordable) And of course the only way they will catch me is red handed...in other words nothing on the computer traces to me...it isnt even mine. No personal information, nothing. I dont even log on to any accounts online not even email. Its a pretty rundown laptop so the only thing i do is really browse stuff like wikipedia for projects. And in the event they do locate where the signal is being taken from, there are a ton of other students with laptops surrounding the library so good luck searching everyone. Now leading back to my point in my last post. You can try and pass information off like jefro (in a civilized manner) or in the typical jerry springer trailor trash trail that some of the people here decided to follow. Whatever the case dont take your troubled, sorry excuse for a life out on posts in here, at least not on me. Cause you'll get wut u asked for. And yea dont even bother 2 reply cause once again i came here for useful information which none of you were able to supply so this thread is pretty much as dead to me as society is to you.

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>> so this thread is pretty much as dead to me << You said that in post 8 so you were wrong again. As Curt R said, how little you know. The prison's are full of criminals of various types that thought they couldn't be traced. Stuart

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And yea dont even bother 2 reply cause once again i came here for useful information which none of you were able to supply so this thread is pretty much as dead to me as society is to you. I won't repeat what StuartS said, it's not only true, but needs no repeating. It's not a case of not being able to supply you with information. I've forgotten more about computers, computing in general, and networking than you're likely ever to know. The reason you won't get help is because this is a "tech help forum" not a hackers forum. You want information on how to circumvent security, go elsewhere, you won't get help with that here....period. But you are not now, nor were bright enough 7 or 8 posts back to figure that out so I'm telling you in no uncertain terms so you'll get the hint. WE WON'T HELP YOU! Unlike you most, if not all, of the people who hang out here and are so generous with their time, knowledge and experience, we have integrity (yes, I know you'll have to look that one up in the dictionary) which is why we won't help a mouthy know-it-all (who really knows nothing) punk like you. As for society being dead to me........ROFLMAO..........excuse me. This from someone who's not even a part of it, has no knowledge or experience of it goes beyond laughable. Hey, if school doesn't work out for you, you have a shot at a career as a standup comic. Don't bother replying. I'm done now and won't be returning to this thread.

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I think this thread went overboard in terms of less than civil conversation. I am not involved this time, thank goodness. I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.

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"if the people at IT really cared about this then they would have made a step since over 2 years ago" I'm still trying to make sense of THAT statement. Life's more painless for the brainless.

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