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can't get internet with new dns server

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Name: dewald
Date: May 18, 2009 at 07:22:51 Pacific
OS: Windows Vista
Subcategory: Servers
Comment:

i recently configured a new server 2003 as a domain controller and also as a dns. I managed to connect my xp pc, my server 2003 pc which is a member server, and my vista pc. they are all on the domain and can connect to the internet, all but my vista pc. can some1 please tell me what settings I have to change so my vista pc can have access to the internet through my DC?



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Response Number 1
Name: guapo
Date: May 18, 2009 at 18:05:29 Pacific
Reply:

I like to use the DNS IPs of the ISP.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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Response Number 2
Name: wanderer
Date: May 18, 2009 at 21:08:59 Pacific
Reply:

post a ipconfig /all from a working unit and from the vista box for comparison


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Response Number 3
Name: dewald
Date: May 19, 2009 at 01:59:36 Pacific
Reply:

all my computers have internet now through my server, but for it to work I had to take down the firewall of the server completely. Is there a way I can make it work with the firewall on?

I also had to do remote assistance, I followed my manual and did all the settings for it to work, but again, the only way I could accomplish remote assistance was to take down the work stations firewall also. maybe you would be able to tell me all the changes I need to make for RA to work with the firewall intact.


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Response Number 4
Name: guapo
Date: May 19, 2009 at 05:02:14 Pacific
Reply:

Add an exception to the firewall.

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Response Number 5
Name: dewald
Date: May 19, 2009 at 11:16:01 Pacific
Reply:

I did, but tell me, is this RA only possible when the computers are on the same domain. I manage to do it between to computers running vista or xp, but not when I want to access my server with remote assistance, or access a PC from my server via RA.


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Response Number 6
Name: wanderer
Date: May 19, 2009 at 11:33:47 Pacific
Reply:


"so my vista pc can have access to the internet through my DC?"

Does the workstations list the servers ip as the gateway ip?

Since you are just learning I really have to doubt the above statement. DNS name resolution is not the same as routing thru your server to the internet. To do that you would need to engage RRAS or ICS on the server that has two nics. One nic facing the internet and one facing the lan.

Is this your setup?


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Response Number 7
Name: guapo
Date: May 19, 2009 at 16:37:37 Pacific
Reply:

Just a point of clarification. Workstations have internet access through the router. The server could be down & the workstation would still connect to the net.

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Response Number 8
Name: wanderer
Date: May 20, 2009 at 07:37:57 Pacific
Reply:

the question remains as to where the workstations are pointed to for dns. If they point to the internet for primary dns that is the wrong configuration for Active Directory.


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Response Number 9
Name: dewald
Date: May 21, 2009 at 00:57:52 Pacific
Reply:

they are not pointed at the router, they are pointed at my DC for there DNS. I have exception on my DC's firewall to allow internet access. My workstation works fine with it's firewall on, but as soon as I turn on my DC'c FW on, then my work station ceases to have internet connection...


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Response Number 10
Name: wanderer
Date: May 21, 2009 at 09:30:51 Pacific
Reply:

would you post a ipconfig /all from a workstation and your server for review.

Engaging a firewall on the server may stop name resolution but it should not block internet access. You do list your routers ip as gateway on the workstations and server, correct?

You haven't loaded a proxy server on the DC have you?


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Response Number 11
Name: dewald
Date: May 21, 2009 at 09:51:26 Pacific
Reply:

no proxy, and the router is the gateway, do you want me to send ipconfig with firewall on or off?


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Response Number 12
Name: wanderer
Date: May 21, 2009 at 13:30:42 Pacific
Reply:

Firewall on or off should not make a difference to the results of an ipconfig /all


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Response Number 13
Name: dewald
Date: May 24, 2009 at 01:35:07 Pacific
Reply:

= )


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Response Number 14
Name: guapo
Date: May 24, 2009 at 16:04:32 Pacific
Reply:

Your DC has a IP address for the wirless NIC but not for the wired NIC. Is that by design?

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Response Number 15
Name: dewald
Date: May 24, 2009 at 23:24:03 Pacific
Reply:

What do you mean wired nic? A network card for connecting with cables? My computers use wireless to get internet from a wireless router. There is no wired NIC for my DC; or am I misunderstanding what you mean...


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Response Number 16
Name: guapo
Date: May 25, 2009 at 05:39:57 Pacific
Reply:

No, you didn't misunderstand me & you answered my question. I've never seen anyone connect a DC with a wireless card before. That's why I asked if it were by design or not. In theory, it should work but it could be part of your problem.

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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Response Number 17
Name: wanderer
Date: May 25, 2009 at 19:31:08 Pacific
Reply:

From my DC
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.206.94
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

This card should be disabled in device manager if it is not being used. Nics to nowhere can cause issues.

Please post the results of this command from the vista box.

cmd [type in Run and hit enter]
nslookup
what is listed here?
exit [takes you back to the prompt]
exit [closes the cmd window]

It should list djdevlamSRV.local



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Response Number 18
Name: dewald
Date: May 26, 2009 at 01:16:00 Pacific
Reply:

ok, I disabled that NIC.
This is the nslookup from my DC:


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup
*** Can't find server name for address 192.168.0.117: Non-existent domain
Default Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.0.117

this is the NSLOOKUP from my PC:


C:\Users\dewald>nslookup
Default Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.0.117:53


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Response Number 19
Name: wanderer
Date: May 26, 2009 at 08:01:35 Pacific
Reply:

It would appear to me you don't have DNS configured.

In DNS you should have your domain name and then under that you have your host records. Your server name should be listed as a name server.

Not sure where, 192.168.0.117:53, <-- the port 53 is coming from.


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Response Number 20
Name: dewald
Date: May 26, 2009 at 08:07:38 Pacific
Reply:

so how should i configure DNS?


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Response Number 21
Name: wanderer
Date: May 26, 2009 at 19:26:09 Pacific
Reply:

what do you show for a host record and ns record in dns presently?


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Response Number 22
Name: dewald
Date: May 27, 2009 at 00:32:19 Pacific
Reply:

how and where do I check for that?


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Response Number 23
Name: pokyehyeh
Date: May 27, 2009 at 03:47:22 Pacific
Reply:

hi can i ask something? my english is too bad.

ok wondering what happening. from what i read you post, i think this is only miss configuration on vista pc.
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Response Number 24
Name: dewald
Date: May 27, 2009 at 04:47:12 Pacific
Reply:

if it is my vista pc that is misconfigured, then my member server and my xp server are also misconfigured. I can get internet through my server if I take down the firewall. I need to know how to make it work with my firewall still up and running...


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Response Number 25
Name: wanderer
Date: May 27, 2009 at 07:40:59 Pacific
Reply:

dewald you access the dns server on the 2003 DC by starting MMC and loading the dns module.

Under DNS you should have your namespace: djdevlamSRV.local

Under that you should have your forward lookup zone.
In your forward lookup zone you should have;

Name Type Data
(same as parent) Name Server(NS) DC.djdevlamSRV.local
(same as parent) Host(A) ip address of DC

DC would be the name of your Domain Controller

What firewall are you running on the DC?
If you turn off the server firewall and do a nslookup are you successful?

To clarify your understanding you are not going thru your DC to get to the internet. Your DC is only functioning as a name server. This is what DNS does, it translates an ip address to a machine name and back again upon request.


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Response Number 26
Name: dewald
Date: May 27, 2009 at 15:06:53 Pacific
Reply:

yes, everything is as you say it should be.
When I enter nslookup in CMD while firewall is on or off I get a reply that says : *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.0.117: Non-existent domain
Default Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.0.117


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Response Number 27
Name: wanderer
Date: May 27, 2009 at 16:10:23 Pacific
Reply:

Why did you remove the ipconfigs? I have a good brain but I am not an elephant memory wise :-)

Please repost the ipconfig /all from the DC

Clearly your dns server is not functional.

Look at the dns event viewer log. What are the error messages?

In the host(A) records do you have a 169.x.x.x ip address listed?


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Response Number 28
Name: dewald
Date: May 28, 2009 at 01:43:36 Pacific
Reply:


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : server01
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : djdevlamSRV.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : djdevlamSRV.local

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Ralink Turbo Wireless LAN Card
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-08-40-02-CD
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.117
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.117

If I go into Manage Your Server and I go into Manage the DNS and I go to the DNS Events; there are so many errors and warnings, some errors: 4004, 4015, some warnings say: 4521, 2630, 414, 2630.

There are no 169.x.x.x ip's in my host(A)
The firewall is just a standard windows firewall...


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Response Number 29
Name: guapo
Date: May 28, 2009 at 07:12:25 Pacific
Reply:

http://help.lockergnome.com/windows...

How do you know when a politician is lying? His mouth is moving.


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Response Number 30
Name: wanderer
Date: May 28, 2009 at 08:08:29 Pacific
Reply:

Might want to read these before you do anything

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298148

http://www.chicagotech.net/troubles...

and check this:
Go to Network Connections -> Advanced Settings. In the Advanced menu make sure that the most important NIC is on top at the Adapters and Bindings tab.



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