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3 IP's; 3 Gateways; 1 client

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Name: MOC
Date: March 30, 2007 at 20:04:56 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 252
Product: Dell Optiplex
Comment:

We are running static IP with 3 subnets (192.168.4.1; 5.1 & 6.1).

We got a new laptop client. This user will be traveling around visiting each of these subnets.

I configured this machine (XP Pro) with 3 ip's and 3 gateways but it is not working, unless I remove the other 2 IP's and gateways.

What am I missing here?



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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 30, 2007 at 23:05:57 Pacific
Reply:

"We are running static IP with 3 subnets (192.168.4.1; 5.1 & 6.1).

We got a new laptop client. This user will be traveling around visiting each of these subnets.

I configured this machine (XP Pro) with 3 ip's and 3 gateways but it is not working, unless I remove the other 2 IP's and gateways.

What am I missing here?"

A basic understanding of TCP/IP.

How would the machine know which IP to use when plugged into one of the networks?

It can't.

Also, how exactly can you have three default gateways?

It can't.

Why don't you look into DHCP to accomplish this instead?

TECH-NO-LOGICAL ROMANCE!

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Response Number 2
Name: MOC
Date: March 31, 2007 at 06:32:36 Pacific
Reply:

Actually XPpro allows you to configure more than one ip address/gateway in one computer.

In the Alternate Configuration tab, under Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Properties, this can be configured.

I got this from:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...

Thanks anyway.



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Response Number 3
Name: XpUser
Date: March 31, 2007 at 07:38:42 Pacific
Reply:

Re-read the article again. Under the cited paragraph you missed the key word ..as long as only one is used at a time.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 4
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 31, 2007 at 08:58:15 Pacific
Reply:

LOL!

I love it when someone says they did something, it didn't work, then try to justify why it should work when shown why it won't.

Bonus points when said person provides documentation that shows why it won't work without realizing it.

TECH-NO-LOGICAL ROMANCE!

http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs12.html


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Response Number 5
Name: MOC
Date: March 31, 2007 at 09:35:31 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks XPuser, that is exactly what I want "to use one at a time". It is working great!

Have a nice one.


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Response Number 6
Name: XpUser
Date: March 31, 2007 at 09:59:29 Pacific
Reply:

heropsycho,

I'm laughing :-)

MOC,

You're welcome but I don't get you? What is working? The 3 IPs 3 Gateways & the 1 client that cannot & will not work at the same time?

i_XpUser


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Response Number 7
Name: Curt R
Date: March 31, 2007 at 10:21:51 Pacific
Reply:

You could also create a batchfile that uses the netsh command to change both the subnet and gateway with the click of a mouse. Have it ask for input, namely the location and it would then apply the appropriate settings.


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Response Number 8
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 31, 2007 at 10:35:47 Pacific
Reply:

I don't get what is so horribly difficult to setup a DHCP server for each segment, or setup a DHCP server and DHCP Relay Agents on the other two segments. It would be far more reliable, require far less administrative effort, and would work immediately for each additional client plugged into the network.

TECH-NO-LOGICAL ROMANCE!

http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs12.html


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Response Number 9
Name: Curt R
Date: March 31, 2007 at 10:55:27 Pacific
Reply:

You know it hero......however, a lot depends on your environment. Where I'm working, everything is static. There is no DHCP except on the WLAN. This means extra work for yours truly and my coworkers in the "Infrastructure" dept (renamed from Telecom & Networks in a recent structural change) but it's just something we have to live with.

We're presently underoing some very serious changes in the infrastructure of our environment with the addition of multiple new routers to segment everything. Once this project is done we're hoping to convince the powers that be to go with a DHCP environment because it would as you well know, make our lives easier. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

The problem is this. It's been this way since the business started out in the early 80's and the big bosses just don't have a real understanding of the technology. Try explaining DHCP vs static IP's to someone who doesn't know what either means......LOL. In the end, we should be able to get what we want, it's just going to take a lot of "persuading" and explaining on our part. The real hurdle is as I mentioned, explaining it to people who's response is "Well, it's working alright now, so why change it?"

I can't speak for the original poster and his environment but I know this much. If the choice were mine where I work, it would be DHCP now and would have been from the moment I could make it happen.


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Response Number 10
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: March 31, 2007 at 11:02:08 Pacific
Reply:

"The problem is this. It's been this way since the business started out in the early 80's and the big bosses just don't have a real understanding of the technology. Try explaining DHCP vs static IP's to someone who doesn't know what either means."

They understand dollars. Show them how much money is spent in labor to maintain a list of IP's used, which node has which IP, how much it costs in downtime when accidents happen when multiple people have the same IP's, etc. Then show them how much it costs to implement DHCP.

If they're stupid enough to advocate static IP's at that point, run, don't walk, to your next employer. ;-)

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