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Name: chrisbuchli
Date: March 27, 2006 at 02:49:47 Pacific
OS: WinXP Home SP2
CPU/Ram: AMDSempron2600 512MB
Comment:

ok guys, i am about to move into a house that already has a computer connected to broadband. i want to put my computer into a different room which doesn't have a coax socket yet. what do i need to know to run the cable over to another room? is as simple as just running it and installing the socket in the wall? i am an aprentice electrician so i'm all good to get up in the roof and run it, i just don't know about coax.
do i need another modem for my computer? and, do i need some kind of NIC so they communicate? i'm guessing not because i'm not planning on actually networking the systems, just sharing the internet connection.

Thanks a lot for any assistance you can render me. Cheers guys,
Chris Buchli.

ps- i'm in australia, if that makes a difference to my cable run standards-wise..... thanks.


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Response Number 1
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: March 27, 2006 at 04:26:24 Pacific
Reply:

Different ways to do this, the one that would cost the least in the long run would be to put a smsll router after the cable modem you all ready have and just make a "CAT 5" cable drop to the new location, one time cost less than $50.00us.....

COAX---CABLE MODEM---ROUTER---Comp1,Comp2

Keep the old stuff running


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Response Number 2
Name: Curt R
Date: March 27, 2006 at 05:45:14 Pacific
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I'm assuming the highspeed connection is via a cable provider since you mention coax. You won't want to use coax for the local network. You want to use Cat5e cable.

Typically, in a single PC installation it looks as follows:

Coax >> Cable Modem >> PC

If you want to have more than one PC connected, it will be like linux said above.

ie (Cable >> Cable Modem >> Router >> PC's)

The important thing is, when you go to run the cable, make sure you use Cat5e and NOT coax.

"CAT 5" cable drop to the new location, one time cost less than $50.00us

I don't know where you get your information linux but, I am a network technician for a living and we charge anywhere from $75.00 to $150.00 per drop to run network cables (including cable, ends or wall jack socket/plate). At $50 per drop, I'd lose money.

Chris, as an apprentice electrician, you should be able to do this yourself for the most part. The only tools you really need are a pair of sidecutters, a cable stripper and a punchdown tool and an RJ-45 crimper.

Here's a link to Cable Wiring Standards to tell you how to wire the ends. You'll want an RJ-45 jack at the end you'll plug into the router and a wall jack (with face plate) at the other end. Just be sure you use the same standard at both ends or you'll make a crossover which won't work. Using a tester to verify the cable when you're done is a good idea.

If you don't have the tools and tester already, call around and get quotes on doing the job. You might get a better rate if you pull the cable and have everything ready (including ends/wall jack etc) when the technician comes to hook up and test the cable. Don't forget you'll need a box to mount the wall jack/faceplate onto.


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Response Number 3
Name: Curt R
Date: March 27, 2006 at 06:16:59 Pacific
Reply:

I forgot to mention, around here, most electrician companies also pull network cable so ask around at work. You may have all the tools and expertise available there to get the job done.


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Response Number 4
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: March 27, 2006 at 10:15:36 Pacific
Reply:

LinuxOS2 said:
"...put a smsll router after the cable modem you all ready have and just make a'CAT 5' cable drop to the new location, one time cost less than $50.00us"

CurtR said:
"I don't know where you get your information linux but, I am a network technician for a living and we charge anywhere from $75.00 to $150.00 per drop to run network cables (including cable, ends or wall jack socket/plate). At $50 per drop, I'd lose money."

Linux was talking about the cost of the router not runing the Cat5. As the OP stated, he has the experience to make the run himself.

Michael J


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Response Number 5
Name: chrisbuchli
Date: March 30, 2006 at 01:31:02 Pacific
Reply:

Aright, thanks everybody!
I should be able to handle all that. If all else fails the work buddies will most definitely come in handy, it helps to have family members in the business too :)

A few questions: If i were to parallel the connections, ie not use a router and just tee-off the cable (say, via a terminal strip), would that cause me to have half the speed out of my connection? Why can't I do this?

Am I to assume that I would use a coax cable from my new wall jack to my computer, even though the run to the wall jack will be CAT5?

How will I connect that coax to my computer? I failed to mention I am currently using adsl, the new one will be cable broadband (i'm sure you've figured this already), so I don't think I have the correct jack on my computer......(?)

OK, that's it, thanks so much for your help everybody. I appreciate it.

Chris Buchli.

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Response Number 6
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: March 30, 2006 at 04:17:20 Pacific
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It looks like you have in mind to somehow split the signal like with a TV COAX signal it just does not work that way, however if you are ready to pay for another CABLE MODEM each month
then that would be a reason to run COAX otherwise ther is no need to install any at all, you just need a run of UTP back to the modem location and install the router there that we have all ready mentioned.....

Keep the old stuff running


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Response Number 7
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: March 30, 2006 at 07:40:48 Pacific
Reply:

You will not run coax to your computer. The coax will run to the modem. After that, all connections should be Cat5. So, cat5 to the router. Then from the router you would run cat5 to each computer - unless you are using wireless, then there is no need to run any cables at all.

Michael J


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