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1000 Switch and 10/100 router Help?

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Name: pt80chip
Date: September 22, 2008 at 09:06:25 Pacific
OS: XP
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I have a 10/100 router Linksys router set up with DD-WRT. Since we have been transferring files over our network I want to use gigabit. I purchased a 16 port netgear gigabit switch, how do I set it up so I get the gigabit speed even though I'm using an 10/100 router to assign IPs and router ports?
Will it by default set the speed to 1000 for all computers connected to that swtich?
thanks in advance



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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: September 22, 2008 at 09:34:45 Pacific
Reply:

No, it will default to 100 and do absolutley nothing for your Internet speed.

A network will only work as fast as the slowest link. You cannot have one bit communication at 100 Mbs and another bit communication at 1000 Mbs. Things will soon get out of sync.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: pt80chip
Date: September 22, 2008 at 09:37:09 Pacific
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So does that mean that even if I have nothing plugged into the Router except the switch the entire network speed will still be 10/100?

It would basically be all of the network computers and devices plugged into the 16 port switch, do I need to buy a gigabit router now too?
Regards,
Andy


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Response Number 3
Name: itguru
Date: September 22, 2008 at 10:22:51 Pacific
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"do I need to buy a gigabit router now too?"

YES, the slowest device will determine the speed, in your case the Router.

Also all the PC/Laptop's will need Giga NIC's if you want to have speedy internal LAN speed data transfer, otherwise they will default to max speed of NIC.


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Response Number 4
Name: Curt R
Date: September 22, 2008 at 10:45:24 Pacific
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So does that mean that even if I have nothing plugged into the Router except the switch the entire network speed will still be 10/100?

It would basically be all of the network computers and devices plugged into the 16 port switch, do I need to buy a gigabit router now too?

NO, you don't need to buy a gigabit router

If you plug all clients into the gigabit switch, then all clients will communicate, and transmit data between each other at gigabit speeds.

This assumes you have gigabit NIC's in each client.

Of course when you go to access the internet, you will be reduced to the speed of your internet connection because it's slower. (as stated above, you're reduced to the slowest connection speed). This however will not affect communication between clients as the data path between them is:

client > switch > client

not

client > switch > router > switch > client

or

client > switch > router > internet > router > switch > client.


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Response Number 5
Name: astroraptor
Date: September 22, 2008 at 14:16:56 Pacific
Reply:

What? Just plug your router to the last port on the switch and you're good to go ... Don't plug any devices to the router, only the switch.


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Response Number 6
Name: jefro
Date: September 22, 2008 at 14:40:52 Pacific
Reply:

You will waste you money and time. Your computer can't use much more than the 100 base now. A gig could even slow the system.

Think of it like this.
I have a Corvette. Doesn't mean I can drive 185MPH ever.

Same as your lan. Your computers backplane is too slow for that much data.

You would be much better off with a server grade nic and quality cables.

"Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, antivirus, anti-spyware, Live CD's, backups, are in my top 10


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Response Number 7
Name: Curt R
Date: September 23, 2008 at 06:48:11 Pacific
Reply:

Jefro, where do you come up with this stuff you spout?!?!

First you say: "You will waste you money and time. Your computer can't use much more than the 100 base now. A gig could even slow the system."

and then you say: "You would be much better off with a server grade nic and quality cables.

You've just contradicted yourself. If the PC is too slow, how is a better quality NIC and cables going to help? I mean, they're not going to make the PC faster right....the only thing that can make the PC itself faster is a faster CPU.

You know, my dad always used to say, "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than it is to open your mouth and prove it"

A computer's CPU is capable of crunching a whole lot more data, a whole lot faster than it can be sent on the network. If there's a bottleneck inside the computer, it's the buses and/or the hard drive.

Luckily these days computers have lots of RAM in them. And, if you're using a Windows product, you also have swapfile available on the HDD. So, if too much data does come in too fast for the computer, it's held in a buffer (ie: RAM or swapfile) until the CPU can process it. So upgrading to 1000 Mbps NIC's and switch will speed up data transfer between all PC's that have a 1000 Mbps NIC that are plugged into the 1000 Mbps switch.

Anybody who says anything different doesn't know what they're talking about.



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Response Number 8
Name: jefro
Date: September 23, 2008 at 13:57:35 Pacific
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I stand by my statement, it is correct.

I won't even bother to return the childish remarks.

"Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, antivirus, anti-spyware, Live CD's, backups, are in my top 10


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Response Number 9
Name: astroraptor
Date: September 24, 2008 at 10:07:04 Pacific
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A gigabit is roughly 100MB/s sequential read/write in a perfect world. Realistically, you'll get less than that. A SATA-II drive will give you about 60MB/s+ sequential read. Now, if you had gigabit for an older machine with an ATA-100 drive, then yes, it would be a bottleneck.


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