my network setup-
1st router is a linksys RT31P2 wired
2nd router is a Dynamode BR-6004 W-G1 801.11G/B wireless

modem takes connection to 1st router
1st router has 1 PC, 2 xbox's, and 2nd router
2nd router provides 2 wireless laptops

cat 5 lead from LAN port in 1st router into LAN port into 2nd router

1st router settings-
DHCP on
NAT enabled
Dynamic routing disabled

2nd router settings-
WAN set to static (only other options are dynamic or PPoe)
LAN DHCP server off, what should the system IP address be in LAN (i.e. my other routers gateway? etc)

now, will the 1st router provide the 2nd oe with IP's via DHCP?
as the only option to setup static IP's is in the portforward bit
the only other thing i could find was Static Routing?
will i need to configure static IP's in the two laptops? i presume yes, but what are the IP's? there is nowhere to establish seperate IP's in EITHER router (apart from port forward)

if someone could point me in the right direction i would be grateful

thanks in advance

you set the lan ip as in your http access as static like .2 [make sure to exclude that ip from your dhcp scope on router1]

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_...

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cheers, but what about the wireless laptops
they are set to get IP's via DHCP because i have no static IP's to put in them??

some more info-

the second, wireless, router allows the laptops to connect to the internet with a cat 5 lead!
but there are no wireless networks found?

You will need to properly configure the wireless aspect and encryption of your wireless router. Should be covered in the routers manual. I have found it easier to input the encryption key as on the wireless router directly into the wireless tab on the laptop.

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"you set the lan ip as in your http access as static like .2 [make sure to exclude that ip from your dhcp scope on router1]"

i did that, now it wont let me access my router config at all

i tried 192.168.1.1 as usual
then 192.168.1.2 and it says page not found?

even before that, i couldnt get it working
i have searched tinternet for help on setting up but found nothing useful
basically the wireless laptop just wont find the connection
and i cant change anything now??

cheers for the help though, i'm not ungrateful

Did you read the link I provided????

Or are you trying to access the management consoles of either router wirelessly???

You can connect wirelessly to the console of either router AFTER you have setup the wireless and you can get on the internet.

Let's drop to basics;
Are you cabled and configured as per the link I provided?
Can you access either routers console via a wired connection?

Last I saw everything was working except for the wireless aspect. Is this not the case?

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i read the link and followed what it said (also as per you previous post) i changed the LAN ip address, now i cant connect to the routers admin panel with wireless or cable plugged in!

yes i'm trying the NEW LAN ip i created and yes i have tried the old one
i have rebooted - still nothing

wireless worked before in 2 laptops
wireless hasnt worked since i reconfigured the router to disable DHCP and setup encryption
but i still jhad access with a cat 5 cable

then, when i changed the LAN ip i have no connection to the router or admin panel
with wireless or cable

Lets drop back to basics.

1. Router1 is connected to the internet via the wan port cabled to the modem.
2. Router2 is connected to Router1 via a CrossOver cable between a lan port of router1 and a lan port of router2.
3. Router1 is configured to provide dhcp to lan and its lan subnet is 192.168.1.x.
4. Router1 web based console is accessable via 192.168.1.1 with a directly connected pc.
5. with a pc cabled to Router1, you get a ip address and can you access the web.

Are these 5 items correct?

The pc connected to router1, what ip address does it get? [you can get this by going to a cmd prompt and typing ipconfig and hitting enter].

If all this works, should since nothing has changed with it, then we will move on to Router2.

You may wish to consult the Dynamode routers docs to see what it takes to clear the config and set it back to factory defaults. If you don't have the manual start here
http://www.dynamode.co.uk/support/s...

DON'T DO ANY THING TO ROUTER2 until we focus on it. Right now I want to confirm router1 and internet works so its config isn't a issue with router2. Make sure to confirm you are cabled correctly between router1 and router2 with a crossover cable. Sounds very much like you are using a regular patch cable [straight thru not crossover]between routers.

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all five are correct!
my Private IP is 192.168.15.101
so my router 1 login is 192.168.15.1
(this was how it came, when i bought it i reset it to factory defaults but it stayed on the above ip range)

yes crossover cable is used from router 1 to router 2 - LAN to LAN

my pc & xboxes connected to router 1 have ALWAYS worked

thanks for the time to help, appreciated

Great news! On to the next steps.

Logon to Router1. What is the LAN DHCP IP scope? The "scope" is the range of ip addresses like 192.168.15.2 to 192.168.15.254

Connect a wired pc to Router2. Boot it up and go to a cmd prompt. Type ipconfig. What is the ip address?

If the pc connected to Router2 gets a ip address in the x.x.15.x range we know that dhcp is passing to it from Router1. This is what we want.

If you get a 169.254.x.x we know it is not. This IS ASSUMING you have your PC's set to use dhcp and aren't doing static ip assignments.

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router 1 DHCP server start IP is 192.168.15.100 - the '100' is editable
number of addresses is 50 - this bit is editable
then it states range is 192.168.15.100 to 192.168.15.149 - this bit isnt editable

laptop - cat 5 to router 2
IP address is 192.168.15.103
gateway is the IP of router 1 (192.168.15.1)

my pc connected to router 1 is 192.168.15.100, and 101 & 102 for the 2 xboxes
obviously making the xx.103 for the laptop correct

i have no static IP assigned at all in either router
the laptop wired to router 2 can connect to the internet
i havent tried the wireless in laptop or entered the router 2 config

cheers

Hey this is progress! DHCP is flowing thru to router2. Great!

DHCP scope is fine in that there are enough addresses for everyone. In the future [not now] you may want to limit the range to just the amount of connected devices for security reasons. So if you have 10 devices you would go .100 to .109. But I digress...

Can you ping 192.168.15.2 from the pc connected to router2? Can you http to it and access the console?

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that ping is error time out!

on the laptop on router 2 the gateway is the ip of the router 1 (192.168.15.1)

on the pc connected to router 1 the gateway is ALSO the IP of router 1 (192.168.15.1)

so the router 2 is now a hub!?!
how would i find its login IP?
as before i just looked at the gateway on whatever machine was connected to a router and the gateway was the routers IP login!

if you remember i changed the LAN IP in the router 2 admin panel to 192.168.1.2
but that or many other sequences wont work
x.x.15.1 - x.x.1.1 - x.x.1.2 etc

x.x.15.1 gets me into admin panel on router 1 FROM laptop on router 2

Not a problem and yes the wireless router is now a wireless switch. I see where the problem is.

Set your pc that is connected to router2 to a static ip address of 192.168.1.5 with gateway .2

NOW try accessing the router2's web page. You will be successful. Change the ip address from 192.168.1.2 to x.x.15.2

Trick here is both routers need to be in the SAME subnet. Since router2 was not you could not access it.

Once you have confirmed the above we will move on to the wireless access.

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thank you. that worked.
so do i follow correctly?
because i have set pc on router 2 with a different gateway to that of router 1
that allows it to access the admin panel on router 2?
as previously the pc on router 2's gateway was router 1

anyway - i am in router 2's admin panel, but no internet access
i presume that is because i havent told either router about the static ip?

First config or router2 was wrong. Address should be 192.168.15.2 not 192.168.1.2. Being in the x.x.1.x subnet means anything in the x.x.15.x subnet can't address/talk to anything in x.x.15.x subnet.

This is why you are changing the ip of router2 to x.x.15.2. It can now be addressed by anything in the x.x.15.x subnet which includes your pcs.

Router2 doesn't have a gateway since we are not routing thru it. It is not a gateway.

It has an assigned ip address for access to the management console. You are not using the wan interface so ignore it.

Set router2 to the 192.168.15.2 ip address. Save and exit. You may need to restart the router.

Set the pc back to using dhcp.

From the connected pc http to 192.168.15.2

Do you end up in Router2's web console? You should.

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I just had a wan link go down so I was a bit distracted.

"First config or router2 was wrong. Address should be 192.168.15.2 not 192.168.1.2. Being in the x.x.1.x subnet means anything in the x.x.15.x subnet can't address/talk to anything in x.x.15.x subnet."

Should read

First config of router2 was wrong. Address should be 192.168.15.2 not 192.168.1.2. Being in the x.x.1.x subnet means anything in the x.x.15.x subnet can't address/talk to anything in x.x.1.x subnet and visa versa. Nothing in the x.x.1.x subnet can talk to the x.x.15.x subnet.

You need to understand that router2 is not routing. There is no need for it to route. You just need it to get pcs connected to the internet via wired and wireless. This is also why dhcp is disabled on this router. Its so router1 gives out the ip addresses and there is no conflict with what is connected to router2.

make sense?

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did as above, and now cant access the router 2 again
the internet works though

pc on router 2 changed to--
IP : 192.168.15.103
gateway : 192.168.15.1

so i ran through the instructions again with the static ip etc
then again, i had access to the router
but the IP was still x.x.1.2 even though i had changed it to 15.2
so i changed it again to x.x.15.2, saved and clicked apply, it auto rebootedthe page could not be found (as i had changed the ip)
tried to log into router again nothing

when you said set the IP in router 2 to 192.168.15.2, which i did, you did mean under 'LAN IP' didnt you?
now my IP is x.x.15.104
gateway x.x.15.1

ok i think i have discovered something (i am looking at stuff myself rather than just letting you do all the work, just not changing anything)

i have changed back to static IP in network config so i can access the router 2 admin

i have found in my router 2 config, as mentioned
under WAN setup there is no disable
it is Dynamic IP user (cable modem)
PPoE user (ASDL)
Static IP user

i have chosen static, then under static there are various settings
default gateway is router 1's IP
there is primary and secondary DNS
but the WAN ip address is 192.168.15.100 - that is my desktop PC's IP plugged into the router 1???

under LAN setup the system IP is 192.168.1.2
i HAVE changed this 3 times now to x.x.15.2
once clicking apply, it auto rebooted and page could not be found
and twice clicked save then it rebooted and page not found
DHCP server is off still

it seems when i change the settings in network connections back to dhcp i cant access the router

give the wan a static ip of 200.200.98.1
then try setting the lan ip at x.x.15.2

Are you ready for where Microsoft wants you to go today?

changed wan to as above, saved, applied ok

changed lan to as above, saved, applied, router auto restarted
page not found
refreshed page still on 192.168.1.2
router found
LAN IP still x.x.1.2 ????
WAN still on x.x.15.100

Starting to sound like a defective router.

You have two choices.

1. leave as is and just have a wkst switch between static ip and dynamic for when you want to config vs get on the internet.

2. if new/under warranty, contact tech support for either a firmware update that specifically fixed this problem or RMA it back to them.
You can also try setting back to factory defaults. The link I provided [response 8]to the docs for that unit should help you there if you don't have the manual.

At this point all that is left to do is get wireless working but if you can't edit and save a config I don't expect great results with that.

Just to confirm, there is no cable connected to the wan port of router2, correct?

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Guess we are done Greg? If not repost anyway since I won't be checking this thread anymore.

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sorry for not replying i have been unbelievably busy

thank you for all your help
i decided to just use the one router in the end
having tried here with you and a good IT friend came to my house and couldnt get it working

thanks for your time though, much appreciated