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Name: Agags333
Date: April 16, 2006 at 00:46:41 Pacific
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Hi guys, it sme again, i got this assignment and i need some help, the lecturers instructions are as follows : "entire company, 3 buildings, each on a different subnet, the company will be using a private class c, subnetted to allow for 62 subnets, this will accomodate for future expansion"
thats my first problem... 62 subnets on class c?, that would mean 2 hosts fer subnet wouldnt it?

my second one is this : " building 1 : first floor (Warhouse and distribution) wireless networking capability, Second floor has 4 staff offices with 15 access points".
Now, does he mean second floor has 15 WAPS, or 4 offices with 15 workstations in each staff office.. please help me out guys,, this one has got me F*cked...




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Response Number 1
Name: Bryco
Date: April 16, 2006 at 02:38:52 Pacific
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3 buildings so a total of 4 subnets allowing for the required 3. This will provide 62 nodes per subnet.

The second floor could have 10 offices. It is irrelivant to the amount of access points that the second floor has.
(the way I read it)
However, read the written question again until you understand the question.

Similarly, in your first question; does it say 62 nodes or 62 subnets?
Give them what they asked for.

Bryan


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Response Number 2
Name: Agags333
Date: April 16, 2006 at 06:56:02 Pacific
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the entire site is to be of a private class C Network, and SUBNETTED TO ALLOW FOR 62 "SUBNETS", each building being on a different subnet... and do they mean WAPS when they talk about access points, or are they talking about nodes, ie 15 nodes Per staff office..


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Response Number 3
Name: Curt R
Date: April 16, 2006 at 10:09:19 Pacific
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You can't get 62 networks exactly. You can get 64 so that's what my info is based on:

192.168.0.0/30
255.255.255.252

This only gives you 4 (four) hosts per network though and I somehow think that's not what you want.

Perhaps you want 62 hosts? The following is for 64 hosts per subnet:

192.168.0.0/26
255.255.255.192

Here's a link to a good online subnet calculator

Second floor has 4 staff offices with 15 access points

That looks pretty cut and dried to me. 4 offices and 15 access points. Why you would want or need 15 AP's for 4 offices I don't know. We're right now labbing some enterprise wireless equipment at work and will be deploying it within a year or so and I can tell you from my own experience, 1 AP will likely cover 4 offices unless they're huge or have all metal walls. Even with so much interference an AP can only cover one office, that's still only 4 AP's.

I don't know who your instructor is, or where he digs up these stupid questions but he's not doing you, or any other of your classmates, any favors with questions like these. He needs to stick to realistic scenarios.

My guess is you're going to some private college and your instructor has NO real life experience whatsoever in industry. Likely he's what's known as a "paper MCSE" if he even has that certification. This is the second question I've seen you post and neither was realistic or even sensible.


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Response Number 4
Name: Bryco
Date: April 16, 2006 at 17:25:26 Pacific
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I agree with Curt R if the instructions are handed out.
Otherwise, perhaps, you may need to pay better attention to the exact wording of the oral instructions if that is what they are.

Bryan


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Response Number 5
Name: Agags333
Date: April 16, 2006 at 18:35:04 Pacific
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its on paper, there was no Audio misconception from my behalf. im just typing in here what it says over there. this is the entire assignment word for word..

If anyone here could help me out on this assignment i would greatly appreciate it..
-3 Buildings, 700 metres apart.
-each building on a seperate subnet
-Entire Site Using a private class C subnetted to allow for 62 "Subnets"
Building 1: Grnd Level (Wireless networking capability )
Lvl1 : 4 Staff Offices with 15 acces points
Building 2: 4 offices

Building 3: Grnd Level (Wireless networking capability )
Lvl1 : 4 Staff Offices with 15 acces points

wiring cabnet to be situated centrally in each building -no workstation must be in excess of 100 metres of wireing cabnet.

Now My questions are as follows :
a) 15 acces points = 15 nodes per staff office, or just 15 WAPS irrrespective of how many staff offices there are.
b) if 15 WAPS, then whats with the " no workstation must be in excess of 100 metres", which would denote ethernet 10/100base cat5 twisted pair, so when does access points come in the picture if nodes are hardwired anyway
c) there is no mention of how many nodes per building, so what can be deduced from this information
d) 62 subnets?????, ?, 2 nodes per subnet??, so its saying there is only 2 nodes per building since each building must be on a different subnet.
e)could they be meaning supernetting? so deploying 255.255.252 subnet, thus allowing for 62 subnets with 1022 nodes per subnet?, can this even be done?
Sorry for the headache, this assignment is due on thursday and its got me F*cked:( i wwill appreciate any info on this subject.


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Response Number 6
Name: Bryco
Date: April 17, 2006 at 03:39:55 Pacific
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Do it both ways by each assumed interpretation. When you get to class get clarification and submit the correct answer.

Perhaps it was intentionally written that way similarly to how a boss would ask for something that s/he knows too little about.

The instructions appear to be missing some important information.

Otherwise take them for their face value and complete the assignment.

HTH
Bryan

Are there no available classmates to discuss the instructions?


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