I installed Novell Netware Client for DOS to get an IPX network. I have a mouse, a sound card and a cd-rom also installed during the dos bootup. After optimizing my config and autoexec, I have a max of 539KB of Conventional memory. To run some DOS apps, I need at least 590KB of Conventional memory using EMS memory (EMM386.EXE). The apps will not run properley using NOEMS function for EMM386.EXE, therefore I have to use the RAM function... I was wondering if anyone has achieved in having Novell Netware for DOS along with a mouse, sound card and cd-rom installed with at least 590KB or more of conventional memory. After the IPX software is loaded can I unload VLM.exe and maybe even LSL.COM from memory and still have a functional network? I don't see how I can free up more conventional memory any other way. Even though VLM.exe states that it can use Expanded or Extended memory, running the application still takes a big chunk of Conventional Memory. I've also added 9KB by disabling the Diagnostic responder and SPX through the IPXODI.COM application. Any ideas? Thanks Jeff in 7 ways...

you can't unload network drivers and expect to stay networked. You have loadhigh's in front of all tsr programs in the autoexec.bat and config.sys? If you are working with dos apps why have a sound card enabled? If you don't need the cdrom to run the dos apps don't load it either. These two alone will give you plenty of memory. Golly gee wilerkers everyone. Learn to Internet Search

Hate to say I actually need both! The Sound Card and the CD-Rom, drivers. But yes having them disabled does save memory. Loadhigh will only free up 1K out of the network driver loading, which would give me 539KB. Jeff in 7 ways...

@Jeffery7 Hi, did you also use the command DOD=HIGH,UMB in Autoexec.bat and devicehigh=<drivername.sys in config.sys file? Paul

Hey Paul, Yes my config and autoexec files are optimized for saving memory, which the best I could do was get well 539KB.... I'm using DOS=HIGH,UMB - DEVICEHIGH on the cd-rom device driver. Loading high on the sound card drivers, MSCDEX, the mouse driver, and the netware stuff(LSL.COM, LNE100TX.COM, IPXODI.COM and VLM.EXE). Like I said I don't know how I can get up to at least 590KB of conventional memory without unloading something. Jeff in 7 ways...

why would your dos app need sound? Golly gee wilerkers everyone. Learn to Internet Search

Well the reason being is because the applications have sound in them, and it enhances the program. It wouldn't be the same without it... I talked to Paul about VLM.exe and from the outlook of it, it doesn't look like that I don't need to load it. But I'm not totally for sure yet, I still need to test it on at least 16 computers... Jeff in 7 ways...