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Netware Server Install/Design Conundrum

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Name: Dave Whitelegg
Date: February 27, 2001 at 04:49:10 Pacific
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I have been asked to upgrade a site's POP3 Mail, Internet Access and install Border Manager so they can track who is accessing the web.

Current Situation
Strange site, they have two separate networks that they want to keep separated, they both connect through an NT box (See below)

NT Server (old hardware) has three LAN Cards
1. Novell Network A
2. Novell Network B
3. Connection to ISDN Router (Internet Access)

Runs Proxy Server (Internet Access) and a POP3 Mail Server.

Solution A
Replace NT Server with a Netware 5.1 Server
Install 3 LAN cards to connect to the following
1. Novell Network A
2. Novell Network B
3. Connection to ISDN Router
(Is this possible ?)
Install Boarder Manager
Install NIMS (POP3)
Install Proxy Connection (Internet Access)

Solution B
Keep the NT Server and use it for Internet Access
Add a new Netware 5.1 Server
Install 2 LAN cards to connect to the following.
1. Novell Network A
2. Novell Network B
(Is it possible to connect to different networks through I Novell Server ?)
Install Boarder Manager
Install NIMS (POP3)
The Server would access the internet through the old Proxy NT Server.

What is the best solution, will they work ? Or is there another solution I haven't though of.

Please Advise

Dave Whitelegg



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Response Number 1
Name: John Hamilton
Date: February 27, 2001 at 15:21:26 Pacific
Reply:

With Netware you can have 2 "seperate networks" by having 2 OU's on one server, users are designated to the OU's in NDS and never the twain shall meet, far easier from a netmans point of view as well.

Border Manager is far better running on a seperate server and will cover all you need in the Internet access, Firewall, VPN, Proxy, Authentication, NAT, DNS and so on and on.

Have you explored Pagasus Mail and Mercury/32 as a Mail system. I have 400 users with e-mail using Pegasus as the client and Mercury as the transport, it interacts with NDS so access and rights are easily managed. And it runs on the main server without problems.

What more could you want 1 NW Server, 1 BM Server and managed through NDS.

NT, Linux or Win95/8/00 Clients all running happily and secure ( more than you can say for NT.

Let me know if you want anymore info

John

Systems Manager
Westonbirt School
UK

www.westonbirt.gloucs.sch.uk


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Response Number 2
Name: Dave Whitelegg
Date: February 28, 2001 at 02:12:37 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the information.

What thing I didn't mention about the two networks that really bothers me, one of the network uses the regular Ethernet and the other uses VGAnyLan (Crap). VG uses VG NICs not capitable with Ethernet.

Can you have two different NIC types running on a Novell Server ? The Ethernet NIC would be part Network A, whereas the VG NIC would be a sort of gateway to Network B. I doubt myself it this will work.

Another Question

Can Border Manager work for two different NDS trees ?

Thanks


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Response Number 3
Name: john
Date: February 28, 2001 at 15:30:40 Pacific
Reply:

Hi

I don't know the (crap) network, if it runs any of the IPX/SPX or TCP/IP protocols it should work. Mainly 802.2 802.3 or EthernetII.

Border Manager can deal with anything in an NDS tree, however many OU's. Cyber Patrol will run as a VAP and be individually configured for users or groups through NDS.

Hope this helps

John


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Response Number 4
Name: Spock
Date: March 3, 2001 at 01:21:26 Pacific
Reply:

You certainly can have two different NICs in any NetWare Server (from version 2.x upwards) That's one of the standard features. I personally have installed and maintained servers with both ethernet and arcnet on them. The server just acts as a router. I also know of installations with Ethernet and Token Ring on the server. The newer versions of NW (4.x upwards) include NetWare Multi Protocol Router (NMR) which translates between protocols to different networks.

It is possible to connect two different networks through the server (as I mintioned above, it acts as a router). One of my servers has 4 100 Mbps NICs in to load balance the network. I have TCP/IP bound to them so that internet access and network faxing works across the four networks. (The Internet gateway in on one network while the fax gateway in on another while all four have to access both features from windows 9x/NT/2000 desktops)

Solution A should work but B might be easier to implement. If you are going to use Solution B (ie., NT server) consiter installing NDS for NT - it's inexpensive ($1 per client I think) and much easier to administer on a Novell network. If you create a user on the tree, access to the NT box can be configured from the tree just like any other NW server!

I'm not familiar with NIMS but have used GroupWise so let me know how it worksout.

Spock


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Response Number 5
Name: Dave Whitelegg
Date: March 6, 2001 at 01:35:06 Pacific
Reply:

Many Thanks Guys

;-)


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