Upgrade to Intel system

Mac / Power mac g5 dual 2ghz po...
May 17, 2010 at 16:09:59
Specs: OS-X 10.5.8
Re-asking a question left sorta unanswered in 2006: I'm and old-school PC user, and an old-school Mac user. I have a Power Mac G5 with the Power PC chipset. I have no misgivings about ripping out the motherboard and swapping in an Intel-based system, like I used to do with old PCs. It ain't rocket science. $2500 for a new Quad is not in the budget; the box looks like the same form factor.

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#1
May 19, 2010 at 18:29:04
Are you trying a hackintosh on a G5 tower case?
I am not up to date with the hackintosh project and how they solved the
OSX updates or what are the glitches you may face. This is the kind of
troubles that keep me away from those systems. But anyway the Apple
Pro aluminum case is a strong and amazing design and when you feel
the parts inside gave all you expected you may face yourself with a
dilemma, selling it for a low value or doing something else. The Intel
processors will give you a 2 - 5X the performance of the fastest G5.

However the logic boards and the interior design had changed a lot in
recent years and you may need a considerable work in order not to
open a lot of holes or force to much the aluminum. But with careful
planning it could work fine. If you do it document the process and let us
know how it went.


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#2
May 24, 2010 at 01:49:31
So you're trying to downgrade your G5 system to an x86 system? Why?

Just buy a quad core, core 2 system, purchase a retail copy of OS-X for x86 and install it on that. Do realize that x86 will not run any OS 6-9 apps without a 3rd party emulator, and PPC apps will be emulated.

PowerMac 9600(1 ghz G4)
512mb RAM
50gb SCSI
ATi 9200 PCI


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#3
May 24, 2010 at 13:19:35
No, upgrade. I've got a 2003 Power PC G5, running the dual 2Ghz chipset, in the big cheesegrater case, but it won't support Windows. Only the Intel-based G5 chipset and motherboard will run both OS-X Snow Leopard and Windows XP.
However it uses the same form factor as far as I can tell from pictures. It frosts me that I have to abandon the entire CPU and case because the motherboard and associated guts can't be upgraded like a PC. Plenty of room in there. As recommended above I'm investigating a hackintosh upgrade, but not there yet as far as finding a 'here's what you need' source.

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#4
May 24, 2010 at 23:06:38
Only the Intel-based G5 chipset and motherboard will run both OS-X Snow Leopard and Windows XP.

There is no "Intel based G5"(are you simply referring to the case design?). Please understand that the last thing "Macintosh" in the Macintosh line after Apple went to UNIX was the hardware. When Steve Jobs pushed Apple to leave the PPC world, the mac became nothing more than a gloried PC. A modern day "Macintosh" is nothing more than a cheaply built x86 PC running Apples version of BSD UNIX (Mac OS-X) in a shinny case. It would be better and less sinful to keep your G5 unmolested, and either sell it, or store it. Then build yourself an inexpensive PC and load Mac OS X on it. Get it?

It frosts me that I have to abandon the entire CPU and case because the motherboard and associated guts can't be upgraded like a PC.

Three things here. 1. This is because Steve Jobs likes to change the design at every release. He places aesthetics above anything else, this is one part of the reason why he was FIRED from Apple in the 80's 2. All through the mid 80's (after Steve left) and up until he came back around '97, almost every mac had a hardware upgrade path and expandability. This is why I run a 9600 that started out as a 350mhz 604e, and is now a 1Ghz G4 (expandability). 3. Steve will only make this worse as time goes on and every year he expects mac users to simply throw out their computer and buy a new one, if you want to have an upgrade path, build yourself a simple desktop PC and load OS-X on it. That way you won't be kicking yourself in the butt later on for buying an over priced PC clone with an Apple sticker on it that is obsolete after a few months. Simple as that.

PowerMac 9600(1 ghz G4)
512mb RAM
50gb SCSI
ATi 9200 PCI


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#5
May 25, 2010 at 13:49:09
Thanks, outlander
I've got a new, cheap PC running XP. I've got an old Mac running the next to newest OS-X. Not much difference in performance either way on my end, except I prefer the OS-X GUI.
After all the capability and quality flip/flops, customer service fumbles, empty marketing hoohaw, I'm not particularly loyal to any system. Since I'm not a gamer, a 10 or 20% difference in processor speed is irrelevant, I just want one box that does it all. OS-X has been very reliable. I'd like to keep that as the base OS. I'm not particularly warm to the idea of a PC emulating a Mac. I've got some buddies booting XP on Macs and they seem to be getting along OK.
The only reason I use a PC is Autocad. I keep the Mac running for just about everything else, such as graphics, page design, internet access (more secure) for shopping, research and mail and my website admin.
I've noticed recently that even Mac applications have started crashing. They don't take down the OS like getting a PC blue screen of death, but I'm really tired of doing the error recovery, like I need an alert window to tell me Mozilla has evaporated in mid-search, followed by the comment feedback tap-dance routine that is pretty meaningless on my end, other than apps keep crashing. All of them. Through all the upgrades. OS-X used to be like visiting Valhalla for a PC wonk. Now there's not much difference in performance that I can see. Just that apps work on one OS and not the other, so you need both if you need to keep your options open. I just want something that works.

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