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HI!
I have a few questions about MAC. I run 3dmax and softimage on a PC today but would I get some performance inprovements on a Powermac???Ive heard that Mac is much faster compared to a pc?
Is it posible tu run MacOS9 or X on an ordinary PC??

You can't run MacOS on a PC because it won't recognize the processor, although you can run Windows NT on a Macintosh. I personally feel that Macs are much slower than PC's, but I'll let you read my arguments here instead of posting directly in this message. However, many graphic designers feel that Macintoshes are superior for their line of work, and I have to admit that for the most part they are right, at least with certain programs. If you are considering buying a new Macintosh to replace your current PC, I would discourage it unless you have lots of money to spend. By the way, I love IBM.

I can let you trash Mac on a mac board!
Mac's are like trucks - lots of torque and
pulling power which aren't really
represented in clock cycle speed so you
will find that a 500Mhz G3 on my snow
runs quite well for 500Mhz - iit is almost
as if Steve Jobs benchmarks the
computer and says, "well it runs between
800Mhz and 500Mhz, lets sell it as a
500Mhz machine 'cause we know for
SURE it clocks 500" While the intel and
AMD guys are like sports car dudes -
trying to get faster and faster to impress
guys like your self what they don't tell you
is that with a 1Ghz chip which is super
fast you're driving on a slow assed road
200Mhz - that is where the paradox starts
and the arqument begins.Personally I have a PIII 800 and a G4 500
side by side and a G3 500 in the next
room I use the G4 500 most of the time
'cause it calculates the long floating point
algorithms for music or whatever
extremley fast. Point to note the ONLY
program that I personally find is faster on
my PC is MICROSOFT WORD and the
rest of the MICROSOFT OFFICE suite,
which comes to me as no surprise really
'cause my PC is running MICROSOFT
WINDOWS 2000; hmmm..... did they
embed programm code directly into the
OS? Be your own judge no conspiracy
theories from me!

Read further down the board, Cyarbon. I've been "trashing" Macs for quite awhile, in more ways than one. The only reason I'ver backed off somewhat is because I realized that there was no way for the Mac advocates to do likewise in the PC forums. And I take at least partial credit for convincing one person (Mike) NOT to buy himself a new Macintosh. He didn't buy a PC either, but at least he didn't spend $1000+ on a new Mac.Hey, if you hate Windows 2000 so much, how 'bout sending me a copy ? I'll send you an old Mac that is pretty beat up (literally).

Man, you are one uninformed person Lipelite. If you had even half a brain, no wait, 1 tenth of a brain, you'd know how superior Macs are to PC's.
First off, Mac's don't crash more often than any other OS, the least maybe but not the most. Perhaps you would recall win2k beta had around 63,000 bugs on initial release. When did you hear of that from MacOS? Never, and it won't ever happen.
Let me clear things up though. We can't completely blame microsoft. After all Lispelite, like you say on your web site, PC's have ton's of configurations. That's why so many of them crash, or if they don't it's because they have specific drivers for every piece of hardware on the system. And alot of the hardware you find on PC's is garbage, again a reason why PC's crash so much.
You talk about IBM and Gateway like they're Gods. Have you no concept of reality? The reason they sell computers for so cheap is exactly that, the computers are cheap! No name sound cards, no name video cards, cheap hard drives, cheap speakers, no name NIC's. Try adding name-brand stuff (i.e: quality stuff) and see if your 400$ PIII is still 400$. I doubt it very, very much.
One more thing to clear up. I'm a PC user. Been using PC's all my life. Studied the processors in PC's. Designed electronic circuits for PC's. Programmed for PC's. I know PC's pretty well. So let me tell you, from all my experience with PC's, Mac's are superior by a long shot.
In conclusion, if you really want people to believe that Mac's are inferior, try putting some true and accurate facts on your site. Like how PC's are about 1000 times more virus-prone, how windows is the infamous crashing-OS, not MacOS. How Mac's fend better in the long run. In other words, get your facts straight or keep your mouth shut!

you can run X on a PC, install a unix.
Mac is like driving a big powerful truck with the clutch half in, it has potential but you don't use the power, and they are painted cutely. And you can only use expensive fuel from a handful of gas stations.
PCs are like Cars and light trucks, good for most general use driving.
UNIX is a big diesel truck with so much power and speed and once you get it going there is no stoping it, it will run forever (I've seen reported uptimes of 2 years). And you can run it almost anywhere, PC, Mac and specilized Unix arcitecture.
Look at macs they come with crappy speakers, and iMac monitors suck. $25 sound cards powered by crystal audio are acceptible for most cases, $20 NICS are just as good as $70 ones. If you price around you can figure out that you don't need to have the best soundcard just to play MP3s and you can get what you need instead of the most expensive model.
a note on processor speeds: 350 works fine on PC for me, no home user needs more then that and the processor is usally idle 95% of the time, just small peaks ever use that power.
I've seen macs crash for absolutly no reason, and with no warning.
More people buy PC over mac, people say Bill gates has a manopoly, you do have a choise: PC, Mac, or alternate UNIX like Sun, or even a free UNIX on their PC like FreeBSD or Linux. People choose him so all the power to him.
Can someone please explain why Macs are better for graphics? They both have the same software avalible for them.

MAC OR PC, I HAVE BOTH AT HOME AND WORK FOR EASE OF USE FOR A NEW COMPUTER USER I SAY MAC ALL THE WAY. I SUPPORT MACS AND WINDOWS BASED COMPUTERS AND MACS ARE MUCH EASIER TO FIX IF A MAJOR ERROR WITH THE SYSTEM OCCURS, YOU BOOT FROM A CD, HOW IS THIS DONE ON A WINDOWS COMPUTER? OR ONCE THE SYSTEM DOES NOT BOOT IS THAT DATA LOST. THANKS FOR COMMING.

The macs I have used are slower than my PII 733 but.. I used the iMac 350 the slowest one they sell. However I love the beatuful Mac interface. ::thinking outloud::, hmm what if mac made a 1 ghz puter... WOW that would be fast.::end::. The Mac OS is the most advanced OS on the public market. I would just buy the cheap mac (excuse me) the inexpensive mac. Good Luck.

how bout each operating system has its place and time of use i have a g4 mac and a 550 pc with 30 of the most common opperating systems on it usning avaritey of bootmanagers. and i have to say as far as just the raw opperating system goes its as follows
1. mac for begginers it keeps you out of meddlesome errors unless you really know what your doing its stable and userfrienly but its acrchitecture isnt very open or configurable comparable to others also limited software but EXCELLENT emulation sceene as far as emulating other o.s.'s its the best with virtual pc
2. windows medium open achitecure lot more configurable but not as stable and alows acces to sensitive areas (good & bad ) this allows rookies to trash and experienced to repair both sides of the coins also lots of software available unlike all the others also equivalantly ease of use to the mac major downfall is the os (not hardware) speed windows is very slow unlike mac windows has yet to ever be revamped microsoft has apparenly never heard the term (new code) the just keep adding code to the original code wich creates one big mess at least mac periodically revamps their whole sys dont believe me go to you windows folder and doulbe click you file manager executable you are now reverted back to 3.10 and its a bugger to get back to current functionallity so i dont recomend unless you know what your doing. all your original code is still there just either enabled or disabled so your running os on top of os basicly by running 1.dos 2. win 3x and whatever current version you have now the only good thing about this is that the original open source code still works for programmers (which is where mac shot themselves in the foot by not releasing their source code)
3. unix and unix clones the space shuttle of os's but just like the space shuttle you better know what your doing befor you try to launch this baby. not user freindly even in x (which is your gui (graphic user interface)) including gnome or kde they arnt freindly the console while more powerful than a locomative (even jumps tall buildings) is one complex bugger with all kinds of switches for even the most basic command also basic install for more modern versions red had 7 mandrake 8.0 are around 1.5 to 3 gig unless you know what your doning but as far as security power and configurability all others fall short.(way short)security with linux (unix) you cant be beat second place is mac third and patheticly so windows windows is all to easy to crack and if you dont know how there are a million and one sites and programs to help (look for the words hacking and phreaking and be very afraid at what you find)
virus!!!
linux unheard of because the only way the basic virus can get you is if your logged on as root (the equiv to administrator)
mac very few because few people know the source code
windows ungodly ammounts of viruses trojans and all sorts of unpleasent critters because they released their source codesoftware windows all the way followed by mac then linux
emulation mac first second linux third windowsyour choice depends on your needs each of theese blows away the competition in their own ways and fall woe fully short in many ways as well
my recomendation is get a g4 with a dos card this allows native pc mode on a mac (non emmulated) its essentialy a pc motherboard that plugs into an existant mac board via pci slot
if not get a pc buy parition magic or other utill as accomplished and install multiple operating systems and choose your own fav oh for the mac use library or school to see if you like
p.s. did not mention os2warp solaris opend bsd quinx or be becuase all but os 2 are bassicly unix os2 is a windows clone that had more fuctionallity in its time but is now woefully antiquated.
dont over look old operating systems may not have all the bells or whistles or as flashy but tend to be more efficient and a hell of a lot faster
win 3x install--70 mb fast load real fast
windows whistler,me,2000 or the other newer ones can take one gig of space and load slow as hell because they have so much more data to crunch to do the tiniest thing so again dont overlook the older systems in the partition right next to my whistler install is the original 3x system and yes i still use it alot for power apps

follow up to apost on this board on how you boot from cdrom on a pc easy first the cd must have an autoexec if dosnt write one if you dont know how millions of apps to help next go to your sys bios generally accesed by hitting one of three keys depending on manufacturer f1 f2 or del this is done at boot time after the vidio card bios flashes the on the screen (if your does ) or after just a second after you turn the power on (must be before system speaker beeps) go in to the boot menu and select cdrom as your first boot device foolowed by removable media hard drive and network boot set them up however is nesc for your sys but with cdrom first next if you burnt the cdrom your self odds are its in jouilet format not iso unless you selected that reburn the cdrom this time select project or layout properties and select iso file format any other is non bootable also if your booting from brand spanking new (no os ) you will need command.com and other files (dependent on what version of windows your using) now this is under the assumption your wanting windows not unix in unix or other systems the process changes slightly (disk format same (iso)) but now the files neede on the cdrom change bios settings still with cdrom first
in fact 5 of my operating systems self install by placing the cdrom in at boot if allready written macros to automate 98% of it i only select partition.

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