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Name: Todd Spelman
Date: October 21, 2003 at 09:57:42 Pacific
OS: 10.2
CPU/Ram: Beige G3/233/256/DVD
Comment:

I am having major issues with a Beige G3 and OS X. After successful install of OS X (10.2) the computer will re-boot to a white screen with "can't OPEN:" about 20 times and then re-boot. I have to boot to the 9.2.2 CD and use Startup Disk util to tell it to boot back to 5GB partition (9.2.2) to get machine back operational. I have made sure that 9.2.2 updates are ALL installed, tried new RAM, tried new IDE cables, installed a PCI ATA133 card and hooked the DVD drive to it (which sped up the install process a TON), tried a new HDD, everything...going NUTS!! HELP!!

Machine info:

Rev. A motherboard
No PCI SCSI card (just the onboard one)
20 GB HDD, 3 Partitions 7.5, 5, rest
OS 9.2.2 installed on 5GB partition
Install OS X on 7.5GB partition

ANY insight would be appreciated!!

Todd
spelmant@sbcgobal.net



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Response Number 1
Name: Alex
Date: October 23, 2003 at 06:19:58 Pacific
Reply:

I had the same problem you are having when I was trying to install X on my beige G3. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, and its not as far away as you may think. You need to update the firmware on the PCI SCSI card using the MAC OSX SCSI card updater available from the apple software updates site. The url for that resource is:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25176

Hope that helps!



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Response Number 2
Name: Todd Spelman
Date: October 26, 2003 at 14:17:40 Pacific
Reply:

As mentioned in my original post, "No PCI SCSI card (just the onboard one)" I can not get the Firmware to load from that url you sent, says it can not find the hardware (I guess since it is not there).

Todd


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Response Number 3
Name: Cameron Williams
Date: October 31, 2003 at 11:50:03 Pacific
Reply:

I am having similar problems. Likewise I don't have a PCI SCSI card in my Beige G3 tower, ran the firmware update for the onboard SCSI controller, and I also get that same white screen with the "can't open...." messages. I then tried to load OS 9.2 back on the machine to get it functional again but now even that won't work. I've tried re-initializing the hard drive (6.0 GB so not the 8 GB limit problem) and a bunch of other posted solutions and all I have to show for it is a DOA G3 box. Do I now just have a very large paperweight thanks to OSX 10.2???


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Response Number 4
Name: Ken
Date: November 3, 2003 at 22:32:10 Pacific
Reply:

Came across this utility called XPostFacto 2.2.5 that seems to resolves a problem similar to yours on Beige G3s. (i.e. rebooting to white screen)

Here is a link to the utility.

http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/framework.cfm?page=XPostFacto.html

Good Luck



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Response Number 5
Name: kjbcog
Date: November 5, 2003 at 12:28:38 Pacific
Reply:

I am also trying to install os 10.3 from 9.2on my beige G3 mini-tower. I downloaded the scsi card updater but...no scsi card to update. Do I get an old one and then update it or is there a current scsi card to use? Then what will the next problem be?


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Response Number 6
Name: Todd Spelman
Date: November 6, 2003 at 22:01:56 Pacific
Reply:

UPDATE!!!

I finally got it to install after:

Purchasing TWO replacement motherboards, one "B" Rev, which ended up not even booting to the OS X CD (possibly bad), and another G3 A board. I swapped parts for approximately 6 hours, trying this, trying that...It got to the point that I had 3 dead G3's laying on my pool table..what a frustrating day. I then took a step back and thought about the fundamentals of troubleshooting. I decided to determine which piece of equipment has been present in all the failures. It ended up being a WD 20 GB HDD. I followed all the rules of making sure that the first partition was < 8GB, formatted it correctly...OS X would just NOT boot from it. Replaced the HDD with an Apple 6GB and POOF, OS X. I slapped in 512 MB Ram and a personality card and was off to the races...NOW...

New probles arise.

I got 10.2 all configured, well base system at least, and decided to go ahead and run the software updates. After two lockups, 10.2.8 downloaded and installed successfully, but to my bad-luck, Internet Explorer will no longer open. So I download Netscape, it will not open either. Safari does open, but I can not live with that. One thing that I noticed, I was downloading a copy of Office v.X test drive during the software update and apparently it failed, leaving an alias of the download on the desktop. I can not move/copy/delete this shortcut because Mac says that something else is using it. All the troublshooting tips I can find online tell me to open IE, go to download manager and cancel it, but I can not open IE. Checked in Force Close, nothing, reboot serveral times, nothing. So I am re-installing. I will go a few days with 10.2 alone and see if I can re-create the issue for all the brains on the internet to solve...more to follow.

Thanks for everyones support!

Todd


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Response Number 7
Name: micha
Date: November 24, 2003 at 03:41:51 Pacific
Reply:

I had the same problems installing OS X 10.2 on
my beige G3.

it was installing but not finishing the install. after that no boot;
"can't open" message. for this, resetting the p-ram
and or openfirmware will help
(option-command-p-r) or (option-command-o-f
than type "reset-all").

finally, removing 2 of my 3 64MB ram dimms
made the installer extremly slow.

installing 2 of the 3 dimms and the installation
went just fine!

also, i have a WD 2GB HD, was set to MASTER
but had to set it to SINGLE !

note that for some internal CD-ROM's there 's a
firmwareupdate available at apple.

hope it helps,

Micha



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