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Name: Ruisu
Date: May 8, 2009 at 00:47:28 Pacific
OS: OS 9.1
CPU/Ram: 333 GHz / 128 MB
Product: Gigabyte / Nvdaacpi
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Hey.
I have this old Imac sitting around and i
have found need for it for the first time in
over 5 years...

It is an Imac G3 333 with 128 MB ram

I have read a few posts about these
computers but nothing containing much
information about what i am trying to do.

I barely ever grew uccustommed to
anything apple but i need software for this
computer.

The two things i am mainly in need of are:
[1] An instant messeging program that
supports Windows Live accounts and isnt
malicious.
[2] A web browser that supports much
more modern codes. The one i am
currantly using on it is good ol' IE5 and it
sure aint' doing the trick!

If anybody could please provide me with
links that i can download these programs
and others (Please only free-stuff, i cant
be bothered spending money for this
peice of ____ :P)
Also, i attempted to update the OS o 9.2.2
but it didnt seem to work.
I think i need to boot i off a 9.1 disk which i
think i may have thrown out.... thanks.

BTW: I am using OS 9.1 International English.
I ts processor it PowerPC.
It clearly doesn't have a Gigabyte motherboard either but...



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Response Number 1
Name: jtblq
Date: May 8, 2009 at 05:45:08 Pacific
Reply:

we'll here's the thing, Mac OS 9 is NOT a modern OS anymore, as a matter of fact Apple doesn't sell any macs that are PowerPC or can even boot up into OS 9. The last version of OS 9 I used is 9.2.2 (9-10 YEARS ago) and I believe that is the last revision Apple has made. I don't think a Mac that old can run OS X because of the G4, 800 mhz, 1GB suggested spec for running it. You would be better off getting a newer Mac from PowerMax/MegaMacs and see if you can get any trade in for that ancient Mac. Upgrading the OS will only frustrate you to no end.


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Response Number 2
Name: Ruisu
Date: May 8, 2009 at 18:52:20 Pacific
Reply:

Lol, Ok, Cool, Thanks.
I read somewere that this comp. would run anything up to OS
10.3.9 And that would be incredibly slow, so i wanted to go more OS 10.2.-.
I was expecting a reply like that though - I remember it was a
good computer in its day.... For about a day until the slot-loaders
were released.

Trading it in at one of those places wouldn't be the best idea
because i live in australia and postage for a 18KG 40X40X30 box
would be almost twice what the thing is worth. Thanks for the
suggestion though.

But would there be any of the software i am after? And something
that plays MP3's if possible. Its speakers are pretty bad but i put it
through my proper speakers and it plays music-CDs quite well.

Thanks,
Atoru


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Response Number 3
Name: wackymacs (by Joshua Coventry)
Date: May 11, 2009 at 03:25:16 Pacific
Reply:

Mac OS X would be VERY slow with a 333MHz G3 and only 128MB RAM.

The best OS 9 browser is called 'iCab'.

You might try an old version of MSN Messenger, but I doubt it will work with Windows Live accounts.

For music you want an old version of iTunes, probably version 1 or 2.


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Response Number 4
Name: jtblq
Date: May 11, 2009 at 05:13:23 Pacific
Reply:

the PowerPC in Macs is dead. I have 2 PowerPC Macs and one is collecting dust, a faster iMac than yours (Sage iMac DV with a 450 (!!!) mhz G3, 20 GB HDD, 512 RAM) but it's still a clunker and a PowerMac G5 with a 1.6 Ghz G5, 500 GB HDD and 2GB RAM and they are DEFINITELY showing their age. The G5 can be used indefinately(the living dead..lol) but the G3 is so dead. G4s are borderline, I had a Mac Mini (the 1st one!) that choked on something simple like CD ripping and 500MB file copying. Save up or slap a card down and get a newer Mac. You'l be glad you did. :)


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Response Number 5
Name: Outlander
Date: June 1, 2009 at 11:03:42 Pacific
Reply:

To all you people saying "PowerPC is dead" Knock it off! It is only because of Steve Screwball Jobs that us true mac users are forced to use intel crap(I still use a 1Ghz G4) and forced to run a BS unix clone known as OS-X. So knock it off, PowerPC is not dead, The Power line, and Cell line of Power products still lives on at IBM and are some of the most powerful processors in the world, besting anything intel can produce.

Now...

IE 5.1.7 is the last version of IE you can run on a mac that uses 9.X You should really switch over to iCab(very slow and crash prone, but modern), or WaMCom(a mozilla 1.2.x build with some fixes). WaMCom is not as modern as iCab, but it is much more stable.

As for Windows Live? Well I really don't use Microsoft products and Windows Live is a trojan in itself for the PC world. If you can use MSN messenger to chat with your Live buddies than I would use that, but ultimately you're going to want to steer away from any MS Live products.

For most of your old world needs use this website:
http://www.pure-mac.com/

For upgrading to a more modern OS(such a twist of words considering unix has been around since the 60's) so you can run a more modern web browser, purchase a copy of Mac OS-X 10.2, or 10.3 and install that, then you can download almost any browser you like. However do be aware that apple drops application support for previous version of their OS's now every year, or every time a major update is released. What I mean by that is while a few more things will run on 10.2, ALOT will not and will require 10.3 or 10.4 to run. Next year it will be even worse. Thank Steve Jobs for this current mess at Apple.

I've been an Apple technician since 1995(or '94) and I still use 68K macs, so don't let anyone tell you PPC macs are dead. Every machine has it's use and some people just don't understand this because everyone has a throw away mentality and it's only going to get worse.

PowerMac 9600(1 ghz G4)
512mb RAM
50gb SCSI
ATi 9200 PCI


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Response Number 6
Name: jtblq
Date: June 3, 2009 at 05:34:10 Pacific
Reply:

PowerPC is dead even Apple is ending support with the next release of Mac OS X Snow Leopard. The last verison of OS 9 (9.2.2) is the fastest OS you'll get on a G3/G4 Mac. The lastest, greatest version of OS X will be Intel-only which sucks for me and lots of other people with 2 or 3 PowerPC Macs they would like to upgrade or tinker with. Using 68k Macs is for hobbyists, collectors and people with too much time on their hands.The Power architecture will live on in Cell, Xenon and myriad of others but the PowerPC in Mac computers is dead. Deader than dead. Get offended if you want to, you know it's the truth and futsing with extensions is something I'm glad I'll never ever do again. EVER! LOL


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Response Number 7
Name: Ruisu
Date: June 3, 2009 at 19:14:24 Pacific
Reply:

Ok guys.
Thanks for your help.
I have been using iCab for several days now.
This is turning into a slow heated debate.
It HAS been solved. You can continue to argue over whether it is dead. From what i know, apple still do provide support for my iMac. Not that i really need it. Though i'd be surprised if they still did for 68k macs.

It is each persons individual choice as to whether powerPC's are dead. Though i have seen very few programs that run on them that have been created recently.

A special thanks to all the people who actually did help me in response to my original topic. Expecially for the http://www.pure-mac.com/ website.

Thanks again.


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Response Number 8
Name: jtblq
Date: June 4, 2009 at 06:18:07 Pacific
Reply:

Debate-schmbate LOL. Differing opinions are ok especially among us so-called 'Mac people', we are a diverse bunch even though the media and sometimes Apple peg up as smug know-it-all monkey's arses. It's true that there is almost no new OS 9 software in existence since 99.9% of developers are using XCode to make Universal OS X applications for PowerPC and Intel Macs. It's all good.That Pure Mac site is pretty cool.


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Response Number 9
Name: Outlander
Date: June 4, 2009 at 18:11:40 Pacific
Reply:

No problem, I've been using pure-mac.com since it started up back in the mid to late 90's(dont remember exact date). Back then I was at a mom and pop shop and we all were sharing a 28800 baud internet connection and downloading updates for customers from there was so sloooowww...

And as long as there are people developing and using software for both 68K and of course PPC hardware, it is not dead.

LONG LIVE 68K!!!

P.S. I'd rather shuffle extensions anyday(I use to know the function for all 130 or so extensions from apple and all the other extensions they conflicted with like it was the back of my hand) than never be able to understand the thousands upon thousands of loose files, commands and switches needed to even boot a shady UNIX clone. Plus applications run about 2x faster under OS 9 on the PPC arc. than in OS-X ;P

PowerMac 9600(1 ghz G4)
512mb RAM
50gb SCSI
ATi 9200 PCI


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Response Number 10
Name: jtblq
Date: June 10, 2009 at 05:34:15 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/10/...

not news but it's the truth.


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Response Number 11
Name: Outlander
Date: June 12, 2009 at 15:45:08 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/10/...

not news but it's the truth.

I've known it was going to go that way since about '97 when steve jobs came back and wanted it that way. I can't wait for the day steve jobs dies and someone takes his place, I'm crossing my fingers Woz will step back into the game and reverse all of the damage steve jobs has done, but there is a better chance that the earth will freeze over first.

Even so, there are still people out there making 68K software and many more PPC believers that will continue to write software for PPC equipped macs for decades to come.

PowerMac 9600(1 ghz G4)
512mb RAM
50gb SCSI
ATi 9200 PCI


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