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Name: floods
Date: October 19, 2003 at 19:26:26 Pacific
OS: Mandrake 9.1
CPU/Ram: AMD 2000XP+ w/512MB RAM
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First, I've seen a few screenshots of people using windowmaker and somehow getting it to have kind of translucent menu's, not entirely transparent but with a gradient or an image on it.. You get the picture, I hope. Anyways, does anyone know how to accomplish this? (On Mandrake 9.1 if that would make any difference.)

Second, is there any type of true transparency for terminals? Not just using a background for the terminal background, but a true transparency? Using aterm right now and have been very pleased with it, but just as anyone always striving for more.

Third is icons with WindowMaker that automatically pop up in the top right hand corner. I'm sure there's some way to change what is brought up. I've tried right clicking them and then going to settings and changing them from there, but they always change back on a restart of WM, and also is there any way to add icons that will auto boot? I don't remember how I did earlier, but I got to the point of setting where it says "Start on Boot" for one of the programs, but it also didn't work upon a restart of WM.

Thanks in advance.



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Name: Jake
Date: October 19, 2003 at 19:33:02 Pacific
Reply:

In response to your second question, there is no true tranparency for anything because it's not supported by XFree86. Even making something truly translucent requires using the framebuffer rather than X, meaning you need programs that support running in the fb. Most don't, and it's not really worth the trouble making fb work properly just to get a stack of translucent windows.


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Response Number 2
Name: floods_
Date: October 19, 2003 at 19:35:42 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks. I was thinking there wasn't, but I hadn't really been able to find a good webpage that says anything about it..

In concern of my first question, I think I found a script that does it.. Though I don't know how to run scripts. It isn't an .sh file, so I don't just ./filename.sh, and when I renamed it to an .sh hoping it would work, no luck. Any ideas?


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Response Number 3
Name: 3Dave
Date: October 20, 2003 at 04:26:56 Pacific
Reply:

File extensions in linux are really only
used to make things easier for the user and
are not refered to by the operating system
itself. If you want to see what sort of
file something is:
$ file filename

Chances are that is doesn't have the
execute permission set:
$ chmod +s filename
you should now be able to run it with:
$ ./filename


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Response Number 4
Name: floods_
Date: October 20, 2003 at 07:21:10 Pacific
Reply:

The site it's from is http://vlaadworld.net/ and it's the transparency thing, so I'm unsure what to do with it really. I'll try chmod +s filename with it when I reboot right now though. Be replying back in just a few about it.


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Response Number 5
Name: 3Dave
Date: October 20, 2003 at 09:28:36 Pacific
Reply:

Ooops....sorry that switch should have been
"-x" and NOT "-s"


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Response Number 6
Name: floods_
Date: October 20, 2003 at 11:47:11 Pacific
Reply:

tried to use -s with no luck, but since you said that I'll have to retry in a bit. In the middle of a report right now so I'm not very able. Thanks for the help


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Response Number 7
Name: floods_
Date: October 20, 2003 at 19:18:57 Pacific
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tried chmod -x and couldn't execute file. I'm thinking maybe that's not what I'm supposed to do with it. New to a lot of this stuff still so I'm confused.

If it's any help (to myself and to you), http://vlaadworld.net/public/trance.patch is the file I'm trying to work with. it says trance.patch so maybe I have to have something before that, but when I read a seperate forum it was pointed to that site. Assuming it says patch because it's patching wmaker.


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Response Number 8
Name: 3Dave
Date: October 21, 2003 at 02:06:31 Pacific
Reply:

WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT!?!?! Sorry, I must
still have been recovering from the
weekend! To add execute permission you use
"+x" and to remove it you use
"-x"....Doh!=o)

But that's not what you want to do with a
patch. To use it first cd into the
directory containing the source/file you
want to patch. If you were to patch the
linux kernel:
# cd /usr/src/linux
Then apply the patch:
# patch -p1 < /full/path/to/trance.patch


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Response Number 9
Name: floods_
Date: October 21, 2003 at 08:02:12 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks! I just found that out yesterday, and came to find that it doesn't work either. I was trying to use the patch that was for an earlier version of windowmaker the whole time.

Thanks for all of the help!


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