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Hi, just wondering which Linux should I use.. I have been using Redhat but as Redhat 9 is the last version and they should that free linux project to Fedora.. I don't really want to use Redhat anymore..
Which other Linux you guys suggest? Mandrake? Suse? I would like to use something that many ppl use and easy to find questions and answer on the internet should a problem occurs.. thanks
SuSE, if you are looking for a dumbed-down distro like Redhat or Mandrake.
Slackware, if you are looking for performance, stability, and an optimal learning process.
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SuSE if you want a good distro which works right out of the box;
Gentoo if you want a well documented performance orientated distro. www.gentoo.org
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Why not Fedora? Its completely community-based now, is probably easier to use than redhat 9 (the gui config programs...), and is made up of all free software, unlike SuSE and mandrake.
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Yeah, your right, SuSE is not totally free software. But, I felt they included a better variety of software that makes for a nice introduction to Linux. Also, their online update is the best that I've run across. The fact that Novell bought them out brings some interesting possibilities, too.
I think Mandrake does include nothing but Free software, now. At least that's what one of their newletters told me.
I haven't been real keen to anything Redhat since they dropped support, and recommended that home users stick to Windows until support improves. What the heck was that about?
I consider Fedora guilty by association.
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Well I hate to admit it. But Fedora aint all that bad now. I spent the whole weekend trying new distros. I have Slack 9.1 on my backup box.
Anyway none of the distros I tried would use my PCI Hardware Modem except redhat of course or fedora now. I did some research and found out that Nvidia came out with a driver for Enterprise(fedora) the day after I tried it. That was the clencher the driver would not compile.
On my second attempt APT installed beside off instead of upgrading DUH . That was a major pain reguired a wipe and reinstall. Anyway I now have fedora up and running with java flash and the new mozdev plugger in. All works so far APT works this time as well. I tried thier servers(RHN) this AM they are so slow it is pathetic. That is why I use a differnent server. The dependency you need for flashplayer is in the fedora devolopement tree I think it is libstdgcc++ for 7.3 compatibility.
Anyhow in the long run other than a slight hassle and a little worry redhat is just saving me 60$ a year.
Good Luck
Ron
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any debian based distro is supperior to those others listed (redhat mandrake suse slackware gentoo) the key is the package management system its called apt (many rpm based systems have copied it but not as well as the original works) it gets rid of dependency issues to configure initially
at command
apt-get update
apt-get install synaptic
synaptic
this is a gui front end to apt that allows you to click and install whatever you want if you find a rpm on the net or a tar you can still use them
alien -d rpm.rpm
this would change rpm.rpm to rpm.deb
a deb native form the -d means convert to deb -r would be rpm etc....
this way you have the best of allworlds
as far as ease of use
http:\\www.webmin.com
download webmin
its a gui frontend for configuring just about any aspect of linux for you
debian based distros
debin linux
xandros (costs money)
lindows (costs money)
libranet (free and pay)
knoppix
morphixetc
knoppix and morphix actually run off a cdrom not a hard drive but you can install permanatly if you like them
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If you are looking for package management,why bother with Debian or Linux at all?
Go download FreeBSD. It's got something called the "Ports Collection", which I imagine Debian is trying to emulate. Performance, stability, and security is unbeatable. You can even rebuild your entire system from source with only 1 command: make world. Also, it has Linux compatibility.
Actually, the "Debian is superior to Slackware" is questionable, and an ongoing argument. I don't recall Slackware having their server compromised. If I remember right, the Debian incident occurred because they failed to update their security. Not very superior, in my opinion.
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If you're talking of package management, fedora has both apt and yum, making it possible to update rpms just like .debs in debian.
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oh... I am not an too experience user with Linux but not a totally newbie either.. I have tried Redhat 5, 7.0, 7.1, 8 and 9..
When I first read Fedora, I was worring that it will be something like Debian.. Debian is good..just not too easy for casual user like me.
I almost want to jump to Mandrake.. but just worry that a long term Redhat user like me may not find all the packages I used to see and need to find them back from the net... One process that I hate most with Linux installation is the Dependency issue in installing new packages... that drives me crazy..
After some researching on Fedora, it gives me the feeling that Redhat is still backing up Fedora.. and they actually use Fedora as an experiemental platform for their Enterprise software.. so, I guess I will give Fedora a try..
Hey... as Redhat is still backing up Fedora.. in long term.. would the relationship between Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise edition be something like MS Win 98 and Win NT?
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Redhat is backing fedora in the sense that their employees are allowed to create/update rpm packages for fedora just as they were for redhat.
Eventually, Fedora should be a community based project - people like you and I can create packages/fix bugs, and thus contribute to the project.
Btw, debian is also a very very good OS. It was the first to have "apt". Infact apt is a part of the debian project. The debian package management (and also fedora package managerment) is very different from the *BSD ports system. Debian is not trying to emulate ports. Ports is a source-based system, ie you can get the sources of whatever packages/dependencies you need and compile it on your own system, all with one command. Apt on the other hand works with binary (even though you can make it work using sources).
Both systems have their advantages.This distribution stuff has become really boring now. I use my *own* system, which was initially redhat 7.1, but now each and every thing has been updated from source. I have my own bootscripts, my own scripts to manage the system, my own configuration files, etc etc.
Changing distributions again and again doesn't work for me, and getting a GB worth of updates every month doesn't work for me either, thats why I don't use Mandrake/Redhat/Fedora/Debian. I find it pretty easy to update just what I want to update, using sources. And I can also specify CFLAGS for my pentium 4 to gcc, so the binaries are optimized for my system.Don't mixup everything with micro**** stuff.
*nix systems are very different. Win98 and WinNT had different kernels, here however the kernel remains the same (Linux) no matter what "Linux" distro you are using.I think what you would want is a "multimedia" system. I think you should get fedora and install MPlayer or Xine, XMMS (if not already installed), Use KDE as the desktop environment, setup your /etc/inittab to boot straight into runlevel 5, to show you a nice graphical screen when you bootup, and show your "windows" friends what they're missing.
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FYI Gentoo's package management is similar to BSD ports, eg "emerge world" will download all required sources and compile them for your system. IMHO I think this better than downloading a binary precompiled by someone else as you have more control over your compiler flags etc and it can produce a very fast and reliable system. The drawback is that it takes longer to install as everything needs to be compiled.
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thanks for all the suggestions..
I was tro try Mandrake.. but somehow.. one of the download iso not burn correctly..
Then I went to Fedora.. downloaded and installed... so far ok.. haven't try too much..but so far.. it's so much like Redhat 9...
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