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Name: keltikgent
Date: July 6, 2005 at 14:50:14 Pacific
OS: winxp
CPU/Ram: 450/384
Comment:

hi all,
just wondering what version of linux is best to download and install..i know nothing about linux whatsoever but i wanna try it.so whats best for a p3 450mhz with 384mb of ram
thanx
keltik



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Response Number 1
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: July 6, 2005 at 20:42:06 Pacific
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Kinda of a loaded question, there are so many different flavors to choose from some can fit on just 1 floppy while other distros will have evrything but the kitchen sink, I tarted with Mandrake but now have found Fedora Core 3 to meet all my needs.
If all you are looking to do is get a feel for Linux you may want to take a look at Knoppix, it will fit on just 1 CD rom and if your bios will allow booting from the CD you wont even need a hard drive as it loads everything into memory and runs from there,
have heard of alot of people that will use Knoppix to trouble shoot a failed windows platform as well as using it to copy files from a windows machine that cant even boot.
You may just want to Google for linux downloads and poke around a bit to see what is out there and to your liking, one thing that you may want to consider is the desktop enviorment, many to choose from there but it seems to me that KDE and GNOME have become the most popular, get ready for a ride there
is so much out there and best of all is the price $00.00

http://www.knoppix.org/
http://fedora.redhat.com/

"Linux" the LAST service patch any window$ platform will ever need! :)

Keep the old stuff running


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Response Number 2
Name: totty (by allan_totty)
Date: July 7, 2005 at 01:44:20 Pacific
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I'd recomend MEPIS or Knoppix since they are both very user friendly and can both be ran from the CD as well as installed to the hard drive. They are also both only a single CD download.
Although it's mainly a matter of personal preference, any of the top distros would do, Mandrake, SUSE, Fedora etc.
You might want to consider buying a boxed version so you get a manual.


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Response Number 3
Name: 3Dave
Date: July 7, 2005 at 02:13:50 Pacific
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Ditto above. Ubuntu is another distro which seems to be quite popular. They will ship out CDs to you for FREE too, one live CD (NB performance of live CDs like knoppix is not as fast as a hard drive install unless you have lots of memory [1Gb+] to load the CD into when booting) and the other CD for a hard drive install once you have decided you like the live one.

I would definitely recommend buying at least one big distro. It saves time downloading ISOs, sometimes (like suse) the boxed version may contain commercial stuff which is not legally available in a download version, the manuals will be invaluble to you and it also supports the GNU/Linux community. Visit www.distrowatch.com to compare distros, download some from www.linuxiso.org, try them out and then choose one to go out and buy....it still works out a fraction of the price M$ charge for an operating system!


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Response Number 4
Name: totty (by allan_totty)
Date: July 7, 2005 at 02:40:58 Pacific
Reply:

3Dave has just reminded me of something,
If you'd like to try a live CD distro with good performance Damn Small Linux is small enough to run in the amount of RAM you have. I think you just type "DSL toram" at the boot prompt to load it into RAM.
You can also run DSL from a USB mem stick or even from within windows although performance in windows is poor.


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Response Number 5
Name: 3Dave
Date: July 7, 2005 at 04:04:45 Pacific
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Slax (based on slackware, my personal favourite) is also a small live distro which may fit into your RAM...I know knoppix needs ~750Mb+

There are several versions of slax aimed at different uses (multimedia box, a server or workstation, running windoze apps etc) and the downloads range from 41Mb to 202Mb

NB most live CD distros can also be installed to your hard drive once booted.

http://slax.linux-live.org/


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Response Number 6
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: July 7, 2005 at 15:57:03 Pacific
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Just for the record from the Knoppix web site

# Intel-compatible CPU (i486 or later),
# 32 MB of RAM for text mode, at least 96 MB for graphics mode with KDE (at least 128 MB of RAM is recommended to use the various office products),
# bootable CD-ROM drive, or a boot floppy and standard CD-ROM (IDE/ATAPI or SCSI),
# standard SVGA-compatible graphics card,
# serial or PS/2 standard mouse or IMPS/2-compatible USB-mouse.

I have never had a problem with low memory even with machines down to 32 meg....

Keep the old stuff running


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Response Number 7
Name: keltikgent
Date: July 7, 2005 at 18:15:17 Pacific
Reply:

hi,
thanx all for the info..im gonna poke around the linux sites this weekend.only think i fear is connecting to the net once installed..my isp<bell sympatico> says they do not support linux so i am unsure if they mean if i have a connection problem they cant help or linux wont be able to send out the signal to connect to sympatico.
i have to search around for that also.
thanx again..
keltik


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Response Number 8
Name: totty (by allan_totty)
Date: July 8, 2005 at 01:08:08 Pacific
Reply:

LinuxOS2, we were talking about running knoppix in RAM ("knoppix toram" at boot prompt) rather than from the CD, thats why higher RAM figures were being quoted.

keltikgent, I've never hared of bell sympatico so I'm guessing your not in the UK. Generally connections are handled by a modem or router and the OS just has to be compatible with it rather than the actual connection, sorry bad explanation but can't think of another way of wording it. I think they just mean if you have any problems they won't help.



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Response Number 9
Name: 3Dave
Date: July 8, 2005 at 02:25:34 Pacific
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How are you connecting to the net? If it is via ADSL (or similar broadband service) then make sure you get a networked router rather than one of those USB modem types....that way all you need to do to get it to work is configure your network settings, no need for any modem drivers. If you connect via dial-up then an external serial modem (again not USB) will be easiest, otherwise make sure that it is a hardware modem and not a not a winmodem (www.linmodems.org).


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Response Number 10
Name: keltikgent
Date: July 8, 2005 at 11:13:19 Pacific
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hi,
i have dsl connection and im behind a router.im still trying to find out if the signal is compatible with linux.i have tried to download various diffrent versions of linux,but the download speed is horrible 20 hours for 635 mb and it needs to be downloaded 4 times on some versions.knoppix no site would load all i got was no page to display tried http and ftp and nothing.ill try again sometime this weekend.
keltik


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Response Number 11
Name: totty (by allan_totty)
Date: July 11, 2005 at 01:25:28 Pacific
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If the downloads that slow you may want to try a different mirror.
Damn Small Linux is only 50Mb so you may want to try it first.
Knoppix and MEPIS are both single full size CDs.
Since your behind a router you shouldnt have any problems, if the router uses DHCP to assign client IP addresses all 3 of the distros mentioned in this post wont even need any configuration to connect.


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