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Name: Balram Adlakha
Date: June 28, 2002 at 04:09:43 Pacific
Subject: To Mr. 'suse user'
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INFACT...
I did try SuSE...I just bought 8.0 personal.
The package was attractive, had attractive
documentation, and a book that described
various software.
But,
After setting it up on my desktop, I found it
useless. I installed the default kde (though
i know gnome rocks) and it crashed every 10
minutes. When i went to the menu and clicked
on an odd program...(just silence). Nothing
happens. This is not the usual linux...
Also, i checked their yast2 for
configuration. I have seen so many people
trying out SuSE just for yast. I tried to
configure my soundcards, AC97 and SB Live.
now, SB Live works when there is no AC97,
AC97 works when there is no SB Live. Tried
everything with the mixers, no use. I don't
know why people can't just load modules with
modprobe. This configuration tool mixes
everything up.
I tried to change the settings of my display
card (intel 815). I checked the 'enable
acceleration' checkbox. It worked. Now i am
stuck with that, i can't disable it, it gives
some stupid error.
Also, SuSE has this tendency to install
packages which are never used. Even a normal
install takes up a huge amount of space.
Also, I found that when trying to install new
software from cds, it showed dependency
problems that just made me laugh. It installs
5 packages when i choose to install one, even
if there is no need.
And also, SuSE had done these weird settings
in the kde control center...

SuSE also had this modified kernel or their
own. I don't know why they have to do that
because the Latest 2.4.18 kernel is much better.

I read about the 'SuSE Labs' somewhere. I
think all they do is stamp their name on
every piece of software they find, dump it
all into a cd and give it.
AND THE WORST PART...THIS AWFUL DISTRO CANNOT EVEN ME DOWNLOADED FROM THE NET

Now i'll tell you about some of the GOOD distros.

1. Slackware.
Slackware iso is a 550 Mb download for the
gnome version for 8.1...So you can easily
download and update your previous system (now
that make sense)
It provides a very powerful, general purpose
gnu/linux system without dumping tons of
programs which u'll never use in your life.

2. Redhat

Redhat is the standard when it comes to
linux. Almost every piece of software
(designed for linux) works on it. It has a
very organised way of development. The
releases are stable as anything, and contain
up to date software at the same time. It has
many menu based configuration tools which
ACTUALLY WORK. It has great support, and
redhat cds are available almost anywhere in
the world.
Take my advise, chuck out SuSE. Even windoze
is more stable than SuSE.


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Response Number 1
Name: Luke McCarthy
Date: June 28, 2002 at 12:59:07 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

LOL

You've had some problems.
I use SuSE 8.0, no problems with it. It practically installed itself. And I DOWNLOADED IT. Hehe. Why the hell would you buy it? You just gotta know where to find it (the SuSE website likes to hide it).

I have never used Slackware or RedHat, but I have used Mandrake, Lycoris and Debian, and I like SuSE the most.

Quote: "The package was attractive, had attractive documentation, and a book that described various software.
But, After setting it up on my desktop, I found it useless." sounds like Windows ME :¬)

You know GNOME sucks. It is beyond ugly. As far as I know you can tell the install program NOT to install KDE and install GNOME instead, but I haven't tried this option, so I can't comment on that.

Those SB Live cards are /very/ dodgy. I bought one and it never worked properly (and that was on Windows). I have a normal SB 4.1 Digital now, SuSE sets it up as an Ensoniq 1371 chipset, and the sound is crystal clear.

I downloaded the nVidia update from the YaST updater, but I cannot get 3D acceleration (yet). The SaX2 program for configuring Xserver is delicate, if you do one thing wrong you'll be back to a command line to pick up the pieces.


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Response Number 2
Name: matt
Date: June 28, 2002 at 16:22:34 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

where'd u download it? was it an iso or just the ftp/nfs way of installing it?


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Response Number 3
Name: Balram Adlakha
Date: June 29, 2002 at 05:37:27 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

yes, thats what...WHERE THE HELL DID YOU
DOWNLOAD IT!!!
I searched the whole web, i could not find
SuSE iso images.
Also, there are 3 install cds in SuSE
personal...You downloaded them all?



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Response Number 4
Name: Code Monkey
Date: July 1, 2002 at 20:15:09 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

The install ISO's are not available for 7.x and above with SuSE. The install is obtained via FTP.

HOWEVER Mr. Luke McCarthy
There are several reasons one would buy it. 1. The FTP version doesnt offer all the same commercial software that the purchased one does.
2. You want the documentation that comes with it.
3. You dont have access to a high speed internet connection and do not want to spend 72 hours installing via ftp over a 56k.
4. You wanted to support a company that distributed linux


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Response Number 5
Name: junky_toof
Date: July 3, 2002 at 06:05:32 Pacific
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Fella.

Do you have any idea what SuSE has introduced and does for the linux community?
Obviously not.

Introduced reiserfs support.
Cutting edge XFree86 servers and development.
Introduced LVM support.
Provide excellent free support and service to distribution purchasing customers.

Get a clue guy, You suck.


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