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RedHat8 does not cope w/ Bad Blocks

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Name: anonymous
Date: October 9, 2002 at 17:05:25 Pacific
OS: Red Hat 8.0
CPU/Ram: 256M
Comment:

I tried to install (format & check for bad
blocks) on a /dev/hdbx partition that I
requested formated as ext3.

Well the installer said:
"Bad Blocks detected on /dev/hda3 We do not
recommend you use this device".

And then would not continue the
installation!

This is not very good: one bad block on a
disk does not preclude that the disk is
unusable at all.

The install should allow the user to
continue (and make the filesystem by
integrating the knwoledge of the bad
blocks... and does not.

I got a bit lucky and had another Linux on
a different partition, and formatting the
partition as ext3 using:
mkfs.ext3 -b 4096 -c -c -L
/dev/hda

actually allowed to properly format and use
the partition.

I wanted to share this with you and hope
that the RedHat 8.0 install integrate this
quite simple way to format a partition with
bad block(s).

In the mean time you only ressource is to
be format the partition with bad
blocks,from another bootable Linux on
the hard disk, or maybe on a Linux bootable
CD (which I my view should be available fro
ech distribution, to resolve this kind of
problem.

If you have fedback for other distros in this kind of situation, please post it.










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Response Number 1
Name: Richard
Date: October 10, 2002 at 00:45:23 Pacific
Reply:

I haven't used redhat for a long time, but couldn't you partition and format the disk from another console while you are installing redhat, and then just tell the installer to use these pre-prepared partitions.

The trouble is, when you have a few bad blocks, you are soon going to have many more, as the disk will be near its use by date.

I think it is fair enough redhat doing this. People who know what they're doing can circumvent it, and newbies don't get left with an installation (maybe tomorrow, or maybe in six months) which gives inexplicable errors that they don't know what to do wtih.


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Response Number 2
Name: anonymous
Date: October 10, 2002 at 02:24:36 Pacific
Reply:

I respectfully disagree:
The user should always have an (informed)
choice: going to major contorsions to
install is not good.

Beside, one (or more) bad block does not at
all preclude that a disk is bad.
Bad blocks happens on brand new media, and
are usually mapped out (hidden) to the
user, at the factory, and missing sectors
are redirected (several possible
algorithms) to good ones.

So again: give the user a choice....
And warn, and add an entry in the install
log.


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