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Name: Jaenak
Date: November 12, 2003 at 17:27:00 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Plus
CPU/Ram: 1.2 & 384Mb RAM
Comment:

I'm currently running SuSE 8.2 and I've got
a couple issues I'm hoping someone
can help me with.

First, I'll go into the Control Center and
select my mouse from the list but afterward,
it'll let me scroll down using the mouse
wheel, but it won't let me scroll up again.
What in the world is going on?? That's not
terribly bothersome, just curious and
slightly annoying when I find myself trying
to scroll up out of habit.

Second, the system clock refuses to change
the time and date format. I've right
clicked on the system clock and gone to Date
& Time Format and set everything to the
settings I want, clicked Apply and nothing
changes. I go back in and everything is
just how I set it but hasn't changed at all.
I've right clicked on it and gone to Adjust
Date & Time, I selected the proper time
zones and set it to "local time" as it
should be but nothing changes. Even when I
set it to UTC its still the same. I've also
right clicked on the clock and gone to
Configure Clock and set things the way I
want them but still nothing changes. The
problem isn't that the date or time is
factually incorrect, the format is
confusing. It insists on running in
military time and displaying the date
MM/DD/YYYY. Whereas I want it to work off
of normal time fashion and DD/MM/YYYY.

Third, is there a way to make the "Desktop"
folder in the Home folder hidden? I tried
moving it to the trash to delete it but
figured out that's where my desktop operates
from. Is there a way to make it hidden so I
can't see it but its still there but isn't
effected in a negative manner by being
hidden?



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Response Number 1
Name: SailingGypsy
Date: November 12, 2003 at 18:05:23 Pacific
Reply:

I run SuSE 8.2 in one of my boxes so lets see if I can help you out.
On the clock issue, first, MM/DD/YYYY. is the actual "normal" date format at least in the U.S. Where DD/MM/YYYY is the actual Military Format in the U.S. but is the "normal" format in Europe and other places. So, if you want it European style, do what you did in the clock settings or under KDE Control Center/regional&Accessibility/Country/Region&Language
area. Set up date and time format as you like and then you have to log out. Once you come back is the way you set it up. If it is still not to your liking, try going to "change date/time", will ask you for root password, then the original time setting utility (same as when initially installing SuSE) comes on. Make sure you hit "change date/time" AFTER you choose first the area of the world you are in and then the time zone.
That should take care of it. (I just changed mine a few times just to make sure and mine works fine)

Regarding the Desktop Folder in the /home directory, you do you want to hide it from? No other user will be able to get to it unless you share it and give them premission directly AFAIK. don't know hot to make it hidden, but maybe playing (VERY CAREFULLY!) with the permissions as root might work. (I've never tried it or thought about it before)

Regarding the mouse, don;t know what to suggest other than making sure that you specified the correct mouse when you set it ip originally. (I don't use scroll-mouse at all, so have no first-hand experience)

HTH and good luck
Best regards...


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Response Number 2
Name: 3Dave
Date: November 13, 2003 at 07:23:22 Pacific
Reply:

1) Check in your /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4)
file for "ZAxisMapping 4 5". How many
buttons does your mouse have. For a regular
wheel mouse linux treats it as having 5
buttons; left, right, middle, scroll up and
scroll down. If you have any extra buttons
(eg thumb button etc) you may have to alter
which buttons are used for the
ZAxisMapping. You may also have to set
"Buttons 5" in your /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4)
too.

2) Why not change the BIOS clock? Failing
that you can use the date command to set
the time (as root) and the hwclock command
to set your hardware (BIOS) clock from the
system time.

3) To make a folder or file hidden, just
start the name with a full stop, eg
".Desktop"


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Response Number 3
Name: Jaenak
Date: November 13, 2003 at 09:36:30 Pacific
Reply:

With the date/time format, I got things
backwards, sorry. My computer is displaying
DD/MM/YYYY and I want it in MM/DD/YYYY and
the time is indeed military time as I first
said. I just had a thought, is there a
setting somewhere for military format versus
"normal" format? My computer clock is set
to "local time" so could it be that instead
of adjusting my system that I need to adjust
my BIOS clock? 3Dave said I use the hwclock
command to change the BIOS clock...where do
I issue commands? I know its not the "Run
Command..." thing in the Applications menu,
that's akin to the "run" option on the start
button in windows.

On another note, I opened the /etc/X11/
folder and opened all the files that said
anything about "config" in the file name but
only about three had this part in it.
Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse[1]"
Option "ButtonNumber" "2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "EmulateWheel" "on"
Option "EmulateWheelButton" "5"
Option "InputFashion" "Mouse"
Option "Name" "USB-Mouse;PS/2"
Option "Protocol" "imps/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

In this section I changed the 4 to a 5 in
the part that says "EmulateWheelButton".
That is what 3Dave was talking about right?
Well, I tried it and all it did was
eliminate my ability to scroll down.

And I tried making the Desktop folder hidden
but the OS just created another "Desktop"
folder so I'm just going to forget about it
and leave it visible.


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Response Number 4
Name: SailingGypsy
Date: November 13, 2003 at 10:54:00 Pacific
Reply:

No problem about "getting the time backwards". Trying to figure computer problems of any kind, get the brain in a bind sometimes. (don't I know that first hand for more years that I care to remember LOL)

The command 3Dave mentioned you execute it from the terminal (i.e. Bash, etc.)

Yes you can check your BIOS clock to see what are the choices in your BIOS. Mine are just regular (U.S.) Date/Time, but yours might be different. Although the "hwclock" command is reading your BIOS clock AFAIK.

Regarding the date format, try this. Go to the KDE COntrol Center, go to the Regional/Accessibility Section, then to " Country&Region". Change your "LOCALE" to United States (instead of default). Then get out of Control Center. Then restart your KDE setion so the changes take effect and try the right-click on the clock to set up the actual format, etc. See if that works because there is no 24hr setting on SuSE (military time) other than those Locale Settings. (I have not tried it because I prefer 24HR clock myself (military time) but I will try it late just to see... lol

The desktop folder thing, I'm no help there because I've never tried (or thought about) hiding a folder from myself. Sorry.

HTH at least some
Regards....


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Response Number 5
Name: Jaenak
Date: November 13, 2003 at 17:07:26 Pacific
Reply:

Okay, what the heck? After I posted my
second post in this thread, I just started
fooling around with the numbers in the
config files and ended up rebooting a couple
times (due to a computer game that locked
up) and continued messing with my computer
games and then, all of a sudden for no
aparent reason my time changed to the normal
format and the mouse's scrolling
capabilities returned. The date is still
backwards but I hid it so now everything
seems to have started working like it
should. I attribute this to a digital
hiccup.

Thanks everyone!


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