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Name: satimis
Date: April 10, 2003 at 10:12:48 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
OS: RH8.0
CPU/Ram: Athlon/512MB
Comment:

Hi all folks,

Kmail and Xiaman on KDE
=======================

My PC can't send mails but can receive mails. Whenever after sending a mail the sent mail box has a record indicating that it has been sent. But the recipient never receives it.

I have made many tests both as ROOT and as USER. The results were the same. The entry in SMTP is correct.

Kindly advise

1) how to check whether there is a mailer-daemon back?

2) How to check whether the mailer
is actually working.

3) Any other ways to check this problem.

Thanks in advance.


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Response Number 1
Name: 3Dave
Date: April 11, 2003 at 02:38:51 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

Can you send a mail maually with telnet?

# telnet smtp.server.com 25
> helo
> mail from: user@localhost
> rcpt to: someone@elsewhere.com
> data
> type in your message here
> and press ^D to end
> or a dot by itself, eg;
> .
> quit

If you can do that, then the SMTP server is
working.


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Response Number 2
Name: satimis
Date: April 11, 2003 at 10:31:58 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

Hi,

Thanks for your advice.

As ROOT
# telnet smtp.server.com 25
telnet: smtp.server.com: Name or service not known
smtp.server.com: Unknown host

The server seems not working. Kindly advise how to fix it.

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
Stephen


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Response Number 3
Name: 3Dave
Date: April 14, 2003 at 03:42:41 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

To what smtp server are you trying to
connect? "telnet smtp.server.com 25" will
not work as it is an imaginary
name....exchange for the name of your smtp
server.


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Response Number 4
Name: satimis
Date: April 14, 2003 at 07:27:16 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

Hi,

Sorry, I made a mistake previously

As ROOT
$ telnet smtp.yahoo.com 25
Trying 216.145.54.172...
telnet: connect to address 216.145.54.172: No route to host
Trying 216.145.54.171...
telnet: connect to address 216.145.54.171: No route to host
$

I could not resolve the problem of "No route to host"

I setup 'Mozilla Mail' with the same settings as in "Ximian Evolution" and "KMail". It works without problem in sending and receiving emails.

I have been playing around with "ntsysv" to select/deselect "Sendmail" but it could not help "Ximian Evolution" and "KMail", problem remaining intact. However such change of option would not affect "Mozilla Mail. It is still working perfectly.

Also I have been playing around with /etc/resolv.conf adding an IP address of the ISP although he only provides dynamic IP address, including disble iptables and ipchains but no solution found. However any changes made did not affect "Mozilla Mail" at all.

Do you think would it be the problem of "Sendmail"? Where is its mailing list for dicussion.

B.Regards
satimis


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Response Number 5
Name: 3Dave
Date: April 15, 2003 at 01:39:01 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

You don't need sendmail running unless you
plan on running your own mail server. The
problem is more likely to be with yahoo.

Try:
# telnet post.demon.co.uk 25
and you should get a response saying service
not available (unless you are dialled up
through demon)


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Response Number 6
Name: satimis
Date: April 15, 2003 at 09:22:33 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

Hi

I made several tests with the same result

# telnet smtp.mail.com 25
Trying 165.251.32.211...
telnet: connect to address 165.251.32.211: No route to host

# telnet smtp.myrealbox.com 25
Trying 192.108.102.204...
telnet: connect to address 192.108.102.204: No route to host
.....
....

# telnet post.demon.co.uk 25
Trying 194.217.242.88...
telnet: connect to address 194.217.242.88: No route to host
Trying 194.217.242.89...
telnet: connect to address 194.217.242.89: No route to host
Trying 194.217.242.90...
telnet: connect to address 194.217.242.90: No route to host
Trying 194.217.242.91...
telnet: connect to address 194.217.242.91: No route to host
Trying 194.217.242.92...
telnet: connect to address 194.217.242.92: No route to host
Trying 194.217.242.85...
telnet: connect to address 194.217.242.85: No route to host
......
.....


I could not resolve why on the same PC, Ximian Evolution and Kmail could not send mails but Mozilla Mail can send and receive emails without problem. All settings are the same also using the same broadband

B.Regards.
satimis


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Response Number 7
Name: 3Dave
Date: April 16, 2003 at 01:43:33 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

It looks to me more like a firewall issue. I
take it you can surf the web OK. What
happens if you:
# telnet www.computing.net 80
see if you connect, then:
# get
and you should get some HTML code.

I don't understand how one of your mail
programs is working but the others and
telnet do not. You might want to check and
firewall/proxy settings in Mozilla.


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Response Number 8
Name: satimis
Date: April 16, 2003 at 07:18:08 Pacific
Subject: Problem in sending mails
Reply: (edit)

Hi

As advised

As ROOT
# telnet www.computing.net 80
Trying 216.235.147.35...
Connected to www.computing.net.
Escape character is '^]'.

hanging there and could not connect

Having reported the problem of KMail to the developer of KDE

After looking at the content of my "Transport #" and "sending mail" of ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc, They returned me a reply as follow:

"Looks good. But I think I now know the answer. The problem is that old versions of KMail or KDE or Qt (I don't remember which one was the culprit.) somehow cached the route to the server. But after reconnecting with a new dynamic IP address this route is wrong. This problem has been fixed in the meantime. You should update to KDE 3.1.1
and try if it works"

I will try to upgrade to KDE 3.1.1 later. Although it would be easier for me to make a new installation of RH9.0, my target is to learn something during upgrade.

Anyway lot of thanks for your continue advice and time spent.

Furthermore I am now contacting Ximian trying to find out the problem of Ximian Evolution.

B.Regards
satimis


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