nope... Did not work. I'm not s---ting you. I said it did not work. I'm not calming down because my terminal does not work does'nt matter what i type in. I seriously need help. Before i do something to it. Please help. When i typed the commands in. It did not extract. It said nothing. I really hope you guys can understand that. Well thanks for the commands that did not work. Listen to this one of the commands above that i typed in with the cp or what ever. This is the error message i got. cp: missing destination file.

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Your console isnt broken. You just dont have the slightest idea what you are doing. If you are getting: "cp: missing destination file" Then you are only typing in: "cp filename" If you typed in "cp filename ~/", and still got that error, then you didnt leave a space between "filename" and "~/" and the interpreter saw it all as one word (eg filename~/) "cp filename" does NOTHING. You have to tell the system where to copy the file...***THE DESTINATION*** (hence "missing destination file") --------------- [burkaj1@web html]$ cp poweredby.png /home/burkaj1/poweredby.png In the above command, I copied the file "poweredby.png" to my home directory... it's not that hard. If you still cant figure it out, than please please PLEASE, stick to the GUI and copy and paste it into whatever folder you want.

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yea, that's why I was trying to steer him away from the terminal window to copy. Just open up your cdrom where the file is. LEAVE that window open. Open up your home folder in another window... LEAVE that folder open. Left click on the driver file, don't let go, and drag it to your home folder.... Then run the "tar" command after you "su" to root..... I just don't understand here..... Good luck. If you think we have problems now, just wait until we finally extract it..... :-) Post back. Good luck. Jon

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ok... Every thing went good until i got this error. This is want i typed. su - enter password for root cp /mnt/cdrom/pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz /work cd /work tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz cd pctel-0.9.6 and then i went like this. ./configure --with-hal=pct789. Here is the error message i got. configure: error: modversions.h is missing-you should configure your kernel fi rst!. I don't know to configure my kernel. Can someone give me step by step instructions to fix this error?? Thanks.

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Yea, this is what I was talking about. You need to compile this package to make a driver specific to your computer and OS. Hopefully you just didn't install any development tools.... This is getting out of my area.. Check to make sure you have something in: /usr/src besides the folder called "Redhat" If not, goto: Redhat button/System Settings/Packages I assume you have the development tools package installed already, If not, do so. Then install the "Kernel Development" package underneath it. Try to configure again. You really shouldn't have to recompile your kernel. This Tarball your working with is specific to 2.4 kernels.... Hopefully, it just couldn't find the source. Don't hold you breath tho. Post back... Jon

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Your not giving up on us are you? What's goin' on? Get it yet?

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no i'm not giving up. I'm using http://www.linuxquestions.org. and there helping me too. I almost have it. There is one problem. I think i have to downgrade my gcc from version 3 to version 2.96 or something like that.

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There are some very patient people on this thread... I think I would have thrown the towel in ages ago. My suggestion would have been to go out and by a copy of "Linux for Dummies" at least he would be able to SEE how the syntax looks. And fiddling around as root can only lead to disaster!

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Number 1. I have Linux for Dummies. Number 2, I'm going to a different place for help and don't post in this thread. It's going to be a waiste of your time because i'm not going to answer. I hope you guys understand. Goodbye.

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Ain't that a kick in the balls....Ingrate...

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Why would it be?? jong357. Please e-mail me and help me. I will tell you the error message i got about the gcc and kernel. If that is ok with you. Is it ok with you?? Thank You.

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jong357... I'm sorry about what i said.

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That's alright.... Derek, I really wanted to help you and I still do.... You have to understand a few things before we proceed here..... I'm not even sure where to begin to tell you the truth..... 1. Forget about your modem for now. NO, REALLY.... Forget about your modem for just 10 minutes and listen to what I have to say.... I really want to help you. I have invested a considerable amount of time following your progress and keeping track of everything you have done...(3 different forums) So have ALOT of other people... But, you are burning bridges on EVERY forum you go to.... First off, you have to understand something.... That being "Forum Etiquette"... You are just being too pushy for people... You come off as ingratefull and everyone gets pissed and stops helping you... Now don't get mad or pissed. I'm just telling you how it really is.... I still want to help, but you need to stop.....As Bigwebmaster said... "You are trying to run before you even know how to walk".... You own half of the posts on www.ozzu.com forums.....The Mod finally killed ONE of the MANY thread's and probably killed your account as well.... The people at linuxquestions.org have showed so much patience, I am just amazed.... 12 pages and counting. Fancypiper threw in the towel and everyone else is going to follow suit unless you calm down and learn a few things first..... Should I continue? Am I just wasting my time here like you say that I am? I am probably the only person who will help you now on this forum after what you just said above..... I am going to stop right there and let you reflect on that. If you want to continue, let me know.... I WANT TO HELP YOU. You have to help yourself first and be willing to get to the basics before we throw you to the wolves... Meaning, I need to take you step by step thru the basics of UNIX commands before we can ever get your modem to work. No s--- cat.... That is step one.... You will NEVER be able to get your modem to work unless we start at square one. Square one would be to have a basic understanding of the terminal window. Post back and let me know that you are willing and ready to learn and we will get you using Linux. When everything starts to come together and you UNDERSTAND Linux..... It will be such a gratifying feeling. More so than just browsing the web with Linux and not knowing squat about the OS.... Post back.... I am ready to help you.... The only thing is, you can't mention your modem to me until I feel that you are ready to tackle it.... Deal? Jon

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I read over everything you wrote. Yes it is a deal. How do you know about ozzu.com and linuxquestions.org?? A while ago i bought Linux for Dummies because i thought a piece of my hardware will work. I'm not going to mentition that hardware. You already know what i'm talking about. Well let's get back to ozzu.com and linuxquestions.org. I'm trying my best to understand them. yes Bigwebmaster was the one who killed my account. He ban me for ever. I need your help. I don't think no one wants to help me because i don't understand. whansard might help me and he is still helping me. I don't know about MasterC. Everyone at ozzu.com. It is hardly doubtful that they will ever help me again in my life. Please reply back. I don't know want to say because it seems like no one wants to help me. I really really think linuxquestions is a great place for me to go for help. If you want you can even tell everyone at that site i think it's a great place for help. Please reply back. Thank You.

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O.k... Let's just stay on this thread even tho it got pushed to page two. That scroll bar is getting pretty small for my liking but that's o.k.... Also, if you could, let's stay off of Linuxquestions.org from now on. I'll agree with you, That is a GREAT place for help. But let's give them a little break. I'm not going anywhere and I'll help you.... Actually everything we need has already been posted on that thread, so we don't need to bug them anymore.... Do you have a broadband connection or are you using dial up? I honestly think it might be easier for you to use Mandrake 9.1 instead of Red Hat.... It will be alot easier for you to understand just starting out. It also does alot of the foot work for you when it comes to some things... If you want to use Red Hat first, we have to configure your system first to make it "newbie" friendly.... I am in the same timezone as you (Ohio) but I don't wake up until 5-7pm.... I'm up all night.... I know you work in the morning so.... Our schedules are a little diffirent. First off, I would like to get your Desktop set up so it is easier for you to work on it.... Are you going to use Red Hat or would you like to give Mandrake a try first? Mandrake 9.1 really is a top notch distro...... Let me know... I'll compose my next post in a text file while I'm waiting for you to respond.... Jon

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ok i'm going to use Redhat Linux 9 because i have dial up and it would take me a very long time to get Mandrake 9.1. So Redhat it is. I already have a dual boot. ok lets set it up jon. Please reply back. Thank You very much.

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O.k... First, I would like to know if Xp is on a FAT32 partition or NTFS. It's probably on NTFS... I had to boot into XP as well... I hardly use it and forget where stuff is located... Check something for me.... Go to: Start button/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer Management/Disk Management Tell me what the filesystem is for C Drive...

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FAT. I think i have it on FAT32. It says FAT. I hardly have it on FAT16 unless i'm running mutiple partitions with a dual with MS-DOS and Windows XP. In this case i'm not so it's FAT32.

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O.k... Just want to bouble check to make sure... Copy/paste this url into your browser http://home.earthlink.net/~jongrosshart/1.JPG Don't see anything about NTFS? C drive just says FAT or FAT32?

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yes that is correct. Just FAT. When i installed Windows XP. I choose not to put it as NTFS. Please reply back.

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What is going to be my next step?? Would it be the desktop?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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o.k... Good move on your part... It would be better if it was FAT32... It's a better system than FAT... O.k. We need to boot up into Red Hat and set it up to see your Windows Partition.... We need to get you writting to your Windows partition from Redhat.... Otherwise it is going to be difficult for us to do things if you have to keep writting all this down... If you have a printer working in Windows, that would work as well.... If you don't have a printer, we will have to do this.... We need to do some stuff in the Terminal Window.... It's important you just COPY/Paste these comands right into the prompt...If you see quotation marks " ", don't type it, I'm just telling you something su "Then enter your root password" vi /etc/fstab "here is what mine looks like" LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/98se vfat umask=0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/Xp vfat umask=0 /dev/hda8 /mnt/Programs vfat umask=0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 There will be some spaces inbetween those variables. This forum takes the spaces out for some reason.... Hit the "I" key Use your arrow keys to go down towards the bottom..... Go to the very BEGINNING of the last line and hit the "enter" key. This will give us a new line. Hit the up arrow key to go up to the new blank line we just created. Type this into that line: /dev/hda1 /mnt/Xp vfat umask=0 Make sure you line everything up... Put the right ammount of spaces where they need to be so it lines up with the rest of your entries.... Understand? /dev/hda1 then a bunch of spaces /mnt/Xp then a bunch of spaces vfat just a few spaces umask=0 Now hit the "ESC" key Hold down "SHIFT" and press the "Z" key twice Let me know that went over o.k. and we will continue

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yeah it went ok. Let's continue. I made a mistake by putting everything in one line like this. /dev/hda1 /mnt/Xp vfat umask=0. and then i had to go back in and put spaces in between. Let's continue. Please reply back.

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So, What's next?? Please reply back when you are ready to continue. Thanks.

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O.k... Just as long as it was all on one line... Make sure it is all on one line. There just needs to be spaces inbetween the variables... Open up a Terminal window and Type: su "enter root's password" cd /mnt mkdir Xp I will explain what the commands mean and what they did in a little bit.... Now RESTART and boot back into Redhat.... Open up your home folder and hit the "Up" arrow in the browser toolbar until you get to / double click on /mnt there should be a folder called "Xp" in there open that up... Can you now browse your Xp partition? I hope so... Post back

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yeah i can browse XP. Please reply back.

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O.k... Nice... I made a mistake tho..... We shouldn't have created the folder called "Xp" while we were root. Now you have a red circle with a line going thru it on the folder. It has a pencil going thru the red circle? That means you can't write to it.... I have a really bad habit of typing: su "enter password" everytime I open up a terminal window. Do this. I would have you use the "chmod"(change permissions) command but sometimes that just won't stick after a reboot. It should. I don't know why it doesn't....Open up a terminal window... su "enter password" umount /mnt/Xp cd /mnt rm Xp exit cd /mnt mkdir Xp O.k.... Now you can stop writing stuff down and COPY/PASTE my directions into a text editor. Then save it to: /mnt/Xp We are going to take little steps here... Agreed? do that and post back. Let me know if it is getting late for you.... I'll be up all night..... Jon

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Hey I'm gonna sign off. You seem to be getting distracted... I'll log in tommorrow about 7pm or so.... Jon

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Hey Jon. I understand almost everything from your previous post. There is one thing that i don't understand. What do you want me to copy/paste in a text editor?? I been doing so good until you told me that i have to copy/paste. I don't know what to copy/paste. yes it was getting late for me last night so i went to bed. Please reply back. Thanks.

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Well, I didn't really want you to copy/paste anything. I was just saying that now you are ABLE to copy/paste my posts into the Windows NOTEPAD. Save it to C drive. Then when you boot up into Red Hat, you can Go to: /mnt/Xp and your notepad will be right there, or where ever you happened to save it to when you were in Windows. You'll be able to read it in Red Hat... Understand? Now, you can easily make a text file in Red Hat and save it to /mnt/Xp and you will be able to read it in Xp....We have both OS's talking to each other which makes life ALOT easier on you. You don't have to worry about figuring out the whole floppy thing now. We will get to that in time... O.k. So just to clarify.... browse to: /mnt/Xp by opening up your home folder, and then hitting the up arrow in the toolbar until you get to: / then select the folder "mnt" Is there a red circle with a pencil on the "Xp" folder? I need to know that we fixed that.... Check that and We'll move ahead...

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I'm gonna give you some more stuff to do, just don't forget to tell me what that "Xp" folder looks like, Kay? I'd like to get both your desktops set up so it's easier for you to use. It will make life easier. We will be using a few apps alot and they should be right there.... First, since you are in windows.... Go to: Start button/All Programs/Accessories Right click on "notepad" and pick "send to desktop" or "create a shortcut". How ever you do it..... It would be nice to have it in your "Quick Launch" area next to the start button. Doesn't matter. As long as you can get to it quick.... This will be your first test with Copying my instructions on this page. PASTE this whole post into Notepad. Save it right to the begining of C Drive.You don't have to write any of this down by hand anymore..... Boot up into Red Hat..... Go to /mnt/Xp double click on that Notepad file you saved to C drive.... Now you can read my instructions..... First, I want to set Red Hat's desktop up real quick..... Minimize everything so you can see your desktop. Go to Red Hat button/Accessories Left click and hold down on "Text Editor" and drag it out to the desktop. Now drag it down to your quick launch area right next to the Red Hat button.... Now go to Red Hat button/System Tools Left click and hold down on "Terminal" and drag that out to the desktop. Drag that down to your quick launch area and put it right next to the "Text Editor" we just placed there.... Those will be your 2 best friends in Linux. Keep them close to you. O.k.... Now we are done with all the stupid stuff and now we can start learning the much needed Linux commands...... Post back and let me know that you did all that. Don't forget about the "Xp" folder in /mnt What does it look like? Just a regular folder with no pencil or red marks on it?

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yup a regular folder. I got the 2 icons to the quick launch bar. Please reply back with some other things for me to do. Thanks. Derek,

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O.k... So were able to copy that post, save it in note pad on C drive and then read it in Red Hat?

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yes that is correct. I did it with my 2 best friends terminal and text editor. I'm ready for the next step when ever you are. Please reply back.

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O.k.... Open up a terminal(quick launch) and type this in.... cd /home/dsanta/.gnome-desktop "That is the name of your folder, right?, dsanta? If not, change it" Then type: ln -s /mnt That just created a shortcut to /mnt on your desktop..... It will be alot easier to get to it now. If you want a shortcut to the Xp folder instead of mnt, type this: ln -s /mnt/Xp O.k... Now you need to understand the terminal window..... Open it up... It will say: [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ Is that right? the first "dsanta" refers to the user that you logged onto after turning on the computer... Got it? you can think of "localhost" as your computer name... That was a default name that you can change when you are installing. I leave mine. It doesn't matter.... The second "dsanta" is the folder that the terminal window is currently working in... This is where it may be tricky to understand.... For now... Just think of the "$" sign as it's telling you that you are a regular user... If you see a "#" sign... That means you are a superuser or "root" When you first open the terminal window, you are working in: /home/dsanta I hate to but, Let me stop right there.... I still haven't been to bed yet..... Give me til' about 7 or 8pm eastern time and we'll continue.... Just don't loose what we are doing now..... It looks like a nice day out. Get AWAY from that computer!!!! Jon

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OK i got it. I did what you told me to do. I will talk to you at 7 or 8pm.

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O.k.. I'm up. Using download managers with Linux on an FTP site is purely expiremental right now.... You didn't mention you were using windows so everyone thought you were using Linux.... Use DAP.... It's a great program for resuming downloads, just in case you get cut off. Use this link.... http://makeashorterlink.com/?P3BD243C4 Mandrake works alot like Xp... In fact, it is Xp... It just has a terminal window..... :-) You'll need the first three disks on that page.... That should take you about 2 weeks on a dial up..... O.k... Ready to continue? Let me drink my cofee and think of what I want to say next...

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Thanks for the link. Was you reading my other postes?? I made 1 other post but it's an advance O/S. OpenBSD download. If you want you can reply to that. It's on this site under Unix. yes i'm ready. Please reply back...

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O.k... It's important you understand this so I'll repost it... Read it CAREFULLY and make sure you UNDERSTAND it. It will make ALL the diffirence in the world using the terminal window.... Open the terminal: [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ the first "dsanta" refers to the user that you logged onto after turning on the computer...Then you had to enter your password before you can even get to the desktop? you can think of "localhost" as your computer name... That was a default name that you can change when you are installing. I leave mine. It doesn't matter.... The second "dsanta" is the folder that the terminal window is currently working in... This is where it may be tricky to understand.... For now... Just think of the "$" sign as it's telling you that you are a regular user... If you see a "#" sign... That means you are a superuser or "root" O.k..... Type this in: cd /usr/local ls cd means "Change Directory". The terminal started out by default in "/home/dsanta". We just told it to go to "/usr/local" By typing "ls", It will LIST (ls) every thing that is in /usr/local..... Notice how it now says [dsanta@localhost local]$ That means you are logged in as the user "dsanta" on the computer named "localhost" working IN the folder called "local"... Did a lightbulb just come on for you? Can you start to see how it works now? Lets make sure. Minimize the terminal window and open your home folder. Browse to the begining of your Red Hat partition, which is " / ". Then select "usr" and then select "local". Now open up you terminal again. See how every thing listed in the terminal matches what's in the folder? It is COMPLETELY unecessary to even use X windows or the GUI (graphic user interface) to use Linux..... You could work from the terminal window and never have to use another window again.... You need to understand the DIRECTORY STRUCTURE most importantly. We should have started with that first probably.... Minimize the terminal. Use the window with /usr/local and hit the "up" button until you get to "/". This is the very beginning of your Red Hat partition. You can think of this as "C Drive"... It basically is..... You have your "program files" folder, you have your "documents and settings" folder and you have your "Windows" folder. They are just called diffirent things. You also have a few more than Windows does.... With me so far? I was once a new user to Linux and I was just as confused as you are. EVERYONE was when they first got off Windows. Don't think it is just you or you are "stupid"... It is completely alien compared to windows, or atleast it can seem that way at first... Boy, this would be alot better if I could sit there with you at your computer..... Use your windows to browse through diffirent folders. I don't mean M$/Xp.... Stay in Red Hat and use the GUI to browse Redhat... Open up your home folder and SERIOUSLY spend a good 10 to 20 minutes just wandering through various folders... I know it's not too much fun, but you need to do it.... Let your self come back to "/" every once and awhile.... Then go somewhere else. You need to feel comfortable with the "Directory". I bet you could navigate thru Windows with no problem at all... You need to be able to do the same thing with Linux.... Do that for awhile and I'll start composing my next message....

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ok i did that for about 10 minutes. I was browsing and searching in there. Please reply back. Thanks. Derek,

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I tryed using the DAP. This is what i did. I hit the add url button and then i typed in this url. ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/mandrake/Mandrake/iso/. This is the message i get. File requested does not exists. Download aborted. What's wrong with that?? I copy and paster the url from my browser to DAP. I get that message. Please reply back. Thanks.

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What is the next step?? I have been waiting here. Why do i get that message with DAP?? Please reply back.

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You are doing the same thing that you were doing in Linux.... The reason why you get that is because there is no such file.... It wasn't lying to you.... That is a "directory". You can't download directories, only files. What you should have put in the URL bar was: ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/mandrake/Mandrake/iso/Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso Notice how I added the name of the first file on the end? Now it see's that there is a file there to download... You don't have to do it that way also... You can if you want. Just right click on the link and select "download with DAP"..Don't get sidetracked on me here... I'll give you some homework to do... I'm gonna go out tonite with some friends. It is a friday night after all.... I want you to find something. Find /usr/lib/gnome-stones/objects Manually browse to it using the GUI and tell me what the first two files are called. Open up a Terminal Window: IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT YOU LOOK AT THE PROMPT AFTER EVERY COMMAND YOU TYPE IN. Notice all the changes.. When I say "prompt" I mean "[dsanta@localhost dsanta]$"....... Make sure you keep looking at it after every command. Type: su "su = superuser or "root"" "enter password" Notice how it now says: [root@localhost dsanta]# you are now no longer logged in as "dsanta" You are now "root" That means you can change or modify ANYTHING you want in Red Hat. We need to be carefull when working as root... You can screw some stuff up if your not carefull.... Type: exit Notice how it logged you out of "root" and now says "dsanta" again...... Type: su "enter password" ( I am going to stop typing "enter password". Whenever you type "su" you are GOING to have to enter "roots" password") cd / this command puts us at the begining of Red Hat... mkdir test This command will make a directory(folder) called "test". Browse there with a window and see for yourself..."mkdir" = Make Directory. Now Type: exit You are back as the user "dsanta" cd / rm test Uh oh... What just happened.. Did it let you? You created that folder as "root". Now we are just a lowly user and are not allowed to delete it with out roots permission... su Notice how it keeps "/" in the prompt.. We don't have to "cd" to it cause we are already there. rm test O.k... Now it let us.... Type: exit We are back as the user "dsanta". Now Type: cd /home/dsanta We are back in your home folder now. Open up a text pad(quick launch). Type in: Now we learn to copy Save it to "/home/dsanta". That should be the default target anyway.... Save it as "copy.txt" Get your terminal window open again and type: cp copy.txt /mnt/Xp O.k... Now we just made a copy of the original "copy.txt" that is located in "/home/dsanta", and we placed the copy in the folder "/mnt/Xp", which is your C drive.. Now you can read that in Xp.....I'll break it down: cp = copy copy.txt = the file we want to copy. We are already in "/home/dsanta" so we don't need to specify the directory cause we are ALREADY there in the "prompt" "space" = "end of file/beginning of where you want to copy it to" /mnt/Xp = the destination of where we want the copy to go to... I tried to explain that as best I can. I hope you understand.. I may have lost you somewhere in there... I hope not. Do that a couple times until you UNDERSTAND what you are doing. And ALWAYS look at the "prompt" after you type a command. If you can see the changes, it might make more sense to you.... Stick with this... Once you learn this, I think we might be able to start on your modem. But NOT until you UNDERSTAND how to do theese things... I did everything I just told you to do as well. I'll post it, just incase you get confused... I'm going to get ready to go out. I'll post when I get back or tommorrow at the latest. Good luck. [jon@localhost jon]$ su Password: [root@localhost jon]# cd / [root@localhost /]# mkdir test [root@localhost /]# exit exit [jon@localhost jon]$ cd / [jon@localhost /]$ rm test rm: remove write-protected directory `test'? y rm: remove write-protected directory `test'? y rm: cannot remove directory `test': Permission denied [jon@localhost /]$ su Password: [root@localhost /]# rm test rm: remove directory `test'? y [root@localhost /]# exit exit [jon@localhost /]$ cd /home/jon [jon@localhost jon]$ cp copy.txt /mnt/Xp Don't forget to tell me the first 2 files in: /usr/lib/gnome-stones/objects

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I want you to TYPE all those commands in. DO NOT copy/paste.... You won't learn the things you need to learn if you just copy/paste. Take carefull note of WHERE ALL THE SPACES ARE.... This is MUI IMPORTANTE!!!!! Good luck... Jon

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Here are the first 2 files. libgnomekoban.a libgnomekoban.la There they are. Please reply back. Thanks.

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ok... Let me guess. You will be on at the same time betwwen 7-8pm?? Is that correct?? I'm going to do some downloading with my Mandrake. I don't have this clear yet with DAP so i'm going to use GetRight. The part i don't understand with DAP is. I do understand that i put this in for disc1. ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/mandrake/Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso. What should i put in for disc 2 and 3?? That link that you gave me. I think it's for disc1. Please reply back. Thanks.

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Yea, that was just for disc one. Go to that site and just right click on the link to disk one. Then select "Download with dap". So do you know how to use the terminal Windows now to copy, delete, change directories, list directories and switch users? Did you do all that?

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It did not say nothing about download with DAP. So i uninstall it. There was nothing. yes i did all that with the terminal. What is my next step?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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Then you have to left or right click on the DAP icon next to your clock and "make DAP my default download manager"..... Anyway..... Did you understand all that tho..... With the Terminal Window..... I would like to test you and tell you to do some stuff and then have you post your Terminal Session here, but I'll skip that... I guess I'll trust you when you say you did all that and understand it.... I actually wouldn't mind jumping on your modem to tell you the truth.... We have a problem tho.... Support for that driver only goes up to 2.4.18 That means Red Hat 8 or below.... Mandrake 9.1 runs a higher kernel as well.... We could do it..... It's going to take some time and I will be learning right along with you.... It's up to you.... You have 3 options as I see it.... Buy an external serial modem, Move to Red Hat 8 or recompile your kernel and use a lower gcc.... I read all the info for that driver..... Alot of work..... Give me a minute. I'm going to download it real quick and try to compile on my Red Hat 8

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My option was to recomplie my kernel. Please read above. I'm not sure but i mentition that i need to downgrade the gcc. yes i would love to do that. Please help me recompile my kernel. Please reply back. Thanks.

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GAP still does not work. It was my default download manager. When i use internet explorer to go to download from Mandrake. Sometimes internet explorer stops responding. So i try to use Mozilla. Either one i can't download with GAP. The file does not exists. Please reply back. Thanks.

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well, forget about that for now. I figured out where you were going wrong with your modem driver... I compiled it just fine.... Took me a few errors and a few tries, but I did it... You were only specifying ONE arguement on your compile command. You need TWO. One for HAL and ONE to specify the INCLUDE of your kernel source.... You want to give this a try? Don't get your hopes up. I'm using a supported kernel and you are not... It may work and it may not.. Let me know... Are you running Mozilla in Xp?

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yes i'm running mozilla. Please reply back.

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What do you want me to try?? Please reply back.

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Well, I'm tellin' ya'... Don't get your hopes up.... It says in the very first sentence that support only goes up to a 2.4.18 kernel... Maybe we will get real lucky. Who knows.... Probably not tho... First off..... Go to: Red Hat button/System Settings/Packages Make sure "Development Tools" and "Kernel Development" are installed. Put a check next to both of them. Then you need to tell me the EXACT names of everything that is in: /usr/src Post back. I have to know some things before I can start giving you commands...

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Is this what you want or do you want the names of everything in the folders?? linux-2.4 23 items linux-2.4.20-8 23 items redhat 5 items right?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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yep. That's what I needed.. Give me a few minutes

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O.k.... I want you to delete the folder: pctel-0.9.6 Then delete the "work" folder. Delete everything that you did before. We are going to start fresh. To avoid problems and to give you the extra practice... Put your CD in the drive that has the Tarball on it(tar.gz). Make sure the screen comes up. That means it is "mounted". Open up a Terminal Window: cp /mnt/cdrom/pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz /home/dsanta tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz cd pctel-0.9.6 ./configure --with-hal=pct789 --with-kernel-includes=/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include "that is all one line. One command. Copy/Paste it if you have to. Don't miss the period at the very beginning" What did it say? We have to take little steps so I know what is going on.... Copy/Paste the ENTIRE output into a text file. Save it as "post.txt" . Save it to /mnt/Xp.. Post it here

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Here it is. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ cp /mnt/cdrom/pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz /home/dsanta [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz pctel-0.9.6/ pctel-0.9.6/misc/ pctel-0.9.6/misc/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/misc/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/SlackBuild.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/build_rpms.sh.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/pctel.spec.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/autogen.sh pctel-0.9.6/misc/pctel.spec pctel-0.9.6/README pctel-0.9.6/AUTHORS pctel-0.9.6/COPYING pctel-0.9.6/ChangeLog pctel-0.9.6/INSTALL pctel-0.9.6/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/NEWS pctel-0.9.6/acinclude.m4 pctel-0.9.6/aclocal.m4 pctel-0.9.6/configure pctel-0.9.6/configure.in pctel-0.9.6/install-sh pctel-0.9.6/missing pctel-0.9.6/mkinstalldirs pctel-0.9.6/cvscompile.sh pctel-0.9.6/FAQ pctel-0.9.6/src/ pctel-0.9.6/src/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/src/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/src/module/ pctel-0.9.6/src/module/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/src/module/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/src/module/ptmodule.c pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/ pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/ptserial-2.4.6.c pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/ptserial-2.4.7.c pctel-0.9.6/lib/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/asus/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/asus/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/asus/i810hal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/cm8738/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/cm8738/pctel-cm8738.o pctel-0.9.6/lib/pct789/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/pct789/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/pct789/pcthal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/sis/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/sis/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/sis/i810hal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/via/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/via/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/via/via686ahal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/lib/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/lib/control.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/vuart.o pctel-0.9.6/modules/ pctel-0.9.6/modules/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/modules/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/include/ pctel-0.9.6/include/pctel.h pctel-0.9.6/include/halwraps.h pctel-0.9.6/include/vuart.h pctel-0.9.6/include/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/include/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/m4/ pctel-0.9.6/m4/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/m4/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/m4/_pctel.m4 [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ cd pctel-0.9.6 [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ ./configure --with-hal=pct789 --with-kernel-incl udes=/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking build driver for... HAL_PCT789 checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... none checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for gawk... (cached) gawk checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h usability... yes checking /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h presence... yes checking for /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h... yes checking for Linux kernel version >= 2.4.0... yes checking for Linux kernel version >= 2.4.7... yes checking for mknod... mknod checking for chgrp... chgrp checking for chmod... chmod checking for depmod... no checking for rmmod... no checking for lsmod... no checking for modprobe... no checking for objdump... objdump checking for objcopy... objcopy configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating lib/Makefile config.status: creating modules/Makefile config.status: creating include/Makefile config.status: creating src/Makefile config.status: creating src/module/Makefile config.status: creating src/ptserial/Makefile config.status: creating misc/Makefile config.status: creating misc/pctel.spec config.status: creating misc/SlackBuild config.status: creating misc/build_rpms.sh config.status: creating m4/Makefile config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing default commands [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ "Please reply back. Thanks"

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Hmmmm.... Looks good so far... This is the farthest you have gotten. Cross your fingers..... Open up a Terminal Window: cd pctel-0.9.6 make su make install "Little steps...... Post the COMPLETE output. We are almost there" Jon

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[dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ cd pctel-0.9.6 [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ make Making all in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making all in module make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' rm -f *~ \#* .*~ .\#* rm -f ptmodule.o rm -f ptmodule.o rm -f ../../modules/pctel.o gcc -D__KERNEL__ -Werror -Wno-trigraphs -fno-common -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -DMODU LE -DMODVERSIONS -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -DHAL_PCT789 -I../../include -I/usr/src/linux- 2.4.20-8/include -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h -D PACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING =\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"pctel\" -DVERSION=\"0.9.5\" -DSTDC_HE ADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING _H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -c -o ptmodule.o ptmodule.c ld -r -o ../../modules/pctel.o ptmodule.o ../../lib/control.a ../../lib/vuart.o ../../lib/pct789/dsp.a ../../lib/pct789/pcthal.a make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' Making all in ptserial make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' rm -f *~ \#* .*~ .\#* rm -f ptserial.o ptserial.c rm -f ptserial.o rm -f ../../modules/ptserial.o ln -s -f ptserial-2.4.7.c ../../src/ptserial/ptserial.c make ptserial.o make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -Werror -Wno-trigraphs -fno-common -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -DMODU LE -DMODVERSIONS -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -DHAL_PCT789 -DBUILD_SYSTEM=\""`uname -s -m -r -p`\"" -DGCC_VERSION=\""`gcc --version | head -1`\"" -I../../include -I/usr/src /linux-2.4.20-8/include -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversio ns.h -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE _STRING=\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"pctel\" -DVERSION=\"0.9.5\" -D STDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE _STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDI NT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -c -o ptserial.o ptserial.c make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' ld -r -o ../../modules/ptserial.o ptserial.o make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making all in lib make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' Making all in modules make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' Making all in include make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/include' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/include' Making all in misc make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/misc' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/misc' Making all in m4 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/m4' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/m4' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6' [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ su Password: [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# make install Making install in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making install in module make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' Making install in ptserial make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making install in lib make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' Making install in modules make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g root -m 644 pctel.o /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pc tel.o /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g root -m 644 ptserial.o /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc /ptserial.o /bin/sh: line 1: depmod: command not found make[2]: *** [install-exec-local] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# ok. How does that look?? Please reply back..

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What is my next step?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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Well, for the most part it looks o.k... I don't know c++ so I really couldn't say for sure what those last 2 errors are about. Let's move on anyway..... This is where it is getting a little tricky for me... Open up a Terminal: cd pctel-0.9.6 su insmod pctel insmod ptserial "If that doesn't work," I think you have to: cd /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc ls "does it list: "pctel.o and ptserial.o" insmod pctel insmod ptserial I'm afraid it's not going to recognize the "insmod" command..... I'm getting kinda' lost at this point.... I'll figure it out tho... Post ALL the output.

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I just re-read some of your other posts... You did get this far before and after you tried: insmod It gives you the gcc error, right? s---.... Let me think. Post all your output anyway...

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yes you are right. It was something about the kernel and the gcc was compiled in a different version or something like that. Well here is my output. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ cd pctel-0.9.6 [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ su Password: [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# insmod pctel bash: insmod: command not found [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# cd /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc [root@localhost misc]# ls pctel.o ptserial.o [root@localhost misc]# Please reply back. It did not recognize.

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Give me a little bit. I need to do some research here.... I may not be able to get back to you tonite... Don't know.... So how did you get the insmod pctel command to work before?

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O.k.... I still don't understand why the insmod command won't work. We can throw "/sbin/" before it tho... Shouldn't have to..... Warning!!! When Jon get's desperate he tends to make unsound or uninformed advice. Proceed at your own caution.... This is what I would do... Open up a terminal: su /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial vi /etc/modules.conf Press the "I" key...... use the arrow keys to go down a few lines and then hit the enter key to make a new line. Make sure you don't interupt a 'double line'... Use the up arrow key to get to the new blank line we just created....Copy/Paste: alias char-major-62 ptserial Press "ESC" and then hold down "SHIFT" and press "Z" twice type: /sbin/depmod -a That should be it for the driver. But I think YOU WILL HAVE "unresolved symbols" on those modules..... Post back....... We can try to set up your modem after that....

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Hey... Before you do any of that stuff, browse to: /etc Find the FILE called "modules.conf" right click, copy, and then paste it it your HOME folder. Don't mess with it. That is our back up

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Waits patiently while Derek gets his beauty sleep......

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Struth Jon... this is better than 'Days of our Lives' Regards. (wouldn't miss it for quids)

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:-) I'm on a mission from GOD..... Not even spawn from the sixth level of hell could stop me now..... Wake up Derek!!!!! Force-load those damn modules..... Your ruining my time table for world domination!!!

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I didn't know any one came out to the back 40...... We've been camping out as it were...

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Hey Jon. The commands for the drivers did not work. I would say that i have to recompile the kernel and gcc. I think what they are saying that my drivers or something like that is compiled different. I'm going to post everything i did. I'm going out for a little while. I should at least be home around 7-8pm or earlier. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ su Password: [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f pctel Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o Warning: The module you are trying to load (/lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o) is compiled with a gcc version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work. Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module pctel loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f ptserial Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module ptserial loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# vi /etc/modules.conf [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/depmod -a [root@localhost dsanta]# Please read. I think it's the first line that you really have to pay attention to. They are saying that they are compiled different. Please reply back. Thanks.

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Yo jon. Are you up?? It's time for you to help me recompile my kernel. Hey jon. Wake up dude. You have a job to do. Your job is to help me. Are you with me?? Please reply back. I got a new linux book today it's called Linux Complete. Later.

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What's up with this Kernel non-sense? Did you read all of that output? "Module pctel loaded, with warnings" "Module ptserial loaded, with warnings" Reboot into Redhat. Type: /sbin/lsmod Look for "pctel" and "ptserial" If they are in there proceed to the next step. If not, post back Go to: RH Button/System Settings/Network Under the Devices Tab - Select the "Add" button - Select "Modem Connection" then hit the "Forward" button ----Obtain the following information from your ISP---- Enter the "Area Code" & "Phone Number" (ISP Access Number) Enter the "Provider Name" (The name of your ISP) Enter the "Login Name" (Your ISP user name) Enter the "Password" (Your ISP user password) Select the "Forward" button Select the "Apply" button if all is correct Under the Harware Tab - Select "Generic Modem" - Then "Edit" -- Modem Device - Manually type "/dev/modem" Baud Rate - "460800" Flow Control - It really doesn't seem to matter Modem Volume - Very High CHECK the "Use touch tone dialing" box Under the DNS Tab - -- Enter the "Primary" & "Secondary" DNS numbers obtained from your ISP Then hit the "Apply" button & then the "Close" button "Do you want to save your changes?" - yes -- Go To: RH Button/System Tools Left click and drag "Network Device Control" to the desktop Open it up. Select Device "ppp0" and hit "Activate" Give it a good 20 or 30 seconds and turn your speakers up? Is it dialing? If the little window goes away and it says "Active" in the Network window, You are on-line. Open up Mozilla and try to go to www.google.com Post back with Mozilla on Redhat ..... Jon

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First i tryed going to network. This is the message i got. redhat-config-network: No modem found on your system. I'm going to flip out if i don't get my modem to work. Please reply back.

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So it looks like i was right. It would not recognize. It seems that way. What can i do about that?? Please reply back. Thanks..

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Redo my last post... And tell me what is going on.. I have no idea what you are trying to tell me.... I asked you to check if the modules are loaded, are they?

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What are you going to do if pctel and ptserial are not in there?? There not. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by Not tainted parport_pc 19076 1 (autoclean) lp 8996 0 (autoclean) parport 37056 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] autofs 13268 0 (autoclean) (unused) 8139too 18088 0 mii 3976 0 [8139too] ipt_REJECT 3928 6 (autoclean) iptable_filter 2412 1 (autoclean) ip_tables 15096 2 [ipt_REJECT iptable_filter] sg 36524 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 18136 0 (autoclean) ide-scsi 12208 0 scsi_mod 107160 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi] ide-cd 35708 0 cdrom 33728 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] nls_iso8859-1 3516 1 (autoclean) nls_cp437 5116 1 (autoclean) vfat 13004 1 (autoclean) fat 38808 0 (autoclean) [vfat] printer 8928 0 keybdev 2944 0 (unused) mousedev 5492 1 hid 22148 0 (unused) input 5856 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 26348 0 (unused) usbcore 78784 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] ext3 70784 2 jbd 51892 2 [ext3] [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ Yo!! Dude. What's going on?? How can i get them to be in there?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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Man, I don't know if I can deal with this right now... I told you I had to bury my cat today... A friend that has been a part of my life for the past 14 years... If I could stop being upset and you could just chill the hell out for a minute, I would tell you what to do.... I also told you if I was going to help you, you had to leave linuxquestions.org alone.... Days of our lives indeed..... The answers are right in front of you. We edited modules.conf to load those 2 up everytime you boot up. It didn't work, just like I thought it wouldn't. It's NO big deal. Just load them again and then proceed with the second half of my post above..... Remember the commands that you typed to load them? I know you can do this own your own... 2 little commands that you have already typed before and that are listed right above..... I will make a script for you that will simplify that task. I'll give it to you tommorrow, if I don't shoot myself before then.....Until then, you will have to load both those EVERYTIME you boot into Red Hat before anything.... The WHOLE reason why it said it couldn't find a modem, is cause the modules weren't loaded..... You are going to have to start trouble shooting some stuff on your own. There won't always be someone there to bail you out of a rough spot.... Everything you need is right there.. I will check back tommorrow to see how it is going. If you are lucky, I will check back tonite.. Jon

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Well i can't do it so i'm linuxquestions.org. Because i said so. That's all i have to say.

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Why don't you just bury me?? I feel like being buried right now.

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ok as of right now i'm calm and relax. Please don't get me hyper again. I only need help. I get an message that says this. redhat-config-network: No modem found on your system. Please help me. Please reply back. Thanks.

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Hey jon. I really did'nt mean to break part of your deal. If i say sorry. You might and might not forgive me. You seem like a nice guy. So i'm going to assume that you will forgive me. I'm going to say it right now. I'm sorry jon. I'm also going to tell you the truth. I want you to continue helping me on any sites i post. Even this site. Is that ok with you?? I know i'm slow at learning. I have some learning disabilities. Are you going to make fun of me for having learning disabilities?? Please reply back. Thanks jon. I hope you understand.

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I know you have a learning disability Derek and no, I'm not going to make fun of you. I knew you were getting hyper and I let you calm down. How I made you that way still eludes me tho.... First of all, which "NETWORK" are you going to in order to try to set up your modem? You completely quit posting your output yesterday, so I can't help you when you do that... type: /sbin/lspci /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial /sbin/depmod -a Then go to RH button/System Settings/Network Can you type your root password in and then get to the window, or does it give you that error as soon as you click on the icon? I need DETAILS.... Not.... "It said I had no modem". Browse to /dev find "modem" right click on it and then go to properties What does the "Link Target" say exactally? Now try using RH button/System Tools/Network Device Control. Can you open that up without an error? If you can open both those up, I don't see the problem. If you can only open one up, I don't see a problem. If you can't open either one up, I still don't see a problem....yet. We will use a diffirent dialer. Post all your output... Tell me if you can open up both those "network" icons.. If only one works, tell me which one. I NEED DETAILS....

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vi /etc/modules.conf Copy/Paste to this forum

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yes i can open them up without an error. I'm getting an error on this part. When i go to RH botton->System Setting->Network and then when i go to click on the modem to your left and then i click foward. It's probes for modem and then i get no modem found. Well this is what i got from this commands. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 04) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB PCI Bridge (rev 11) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 11) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 11) 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 11) 00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 11) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 11) 02:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446 02:0d.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02) 02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10) [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/insmod -f pctel Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o Warning: The module you are trying to load (/lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o) is compiled with a gcc version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work. Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: forced load /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o: create_module: Operation not permitted [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/insmod -f ptserial Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol COM_Vlcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol PctelInitCtrlVars /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol Pctel_module_free /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_ier /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_dll /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_dlm /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol GlobalTimer /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_ier /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_scr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_GetTimer /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_tx /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_dll /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_dlm /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_lcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_msr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_scr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_lcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_msr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_DoInterrupt /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_iir /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol PctelInitVUartVars /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_lsr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_mcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol modem_main /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_rx /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_iir /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol Pctel_module_init /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_Deinit /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol dspMain /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_Init /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_mcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_lsr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license and it has unresolved symbols. The module may be trying to access GPLONLY symbols but the problem is more likely to be a coding or user error. Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they can help you. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/depmod -a depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/modules.dep for writing [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ vi /etc/modules.conf [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ This is what i got from vi /etc/modules.conf alias eth0 8139too alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio alias char-major-62 ptserial post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : alias usb-controller usb-uhci Please reply back. Thanks.

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Are you trying to figure this out about why i can't get my modem?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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Well..... They are not loading. That is your problem. They loaded before. Something got whacked... And you also didn't tell me what the properties are on "/dev/modem".....Just for the hell of it, lets do this... I need to start over. Probably not necessary but let's do it anyway. It only takes 30 seconds to get back to where we are.... cd pctel-0.9.6 su make uninstall make clean "Minimize the terminal, we want to use the same session later" "go to your home folder" delete pctel-0.9.6 folder all that is unecessary but do it anyway then maximize the terminal and type: tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz cd pctel-0.9.6 ./configure --with-hal=pct789 --with-kernel-includes=/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include make make install /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial /sbin/lsmod vi etc/modules.conf Hit the "I" key Use arrow keys to go right BELOW alias char-major-62 ptserial "copy/paste:" below ptserial pctel "right BELOW 'alias char-major-62 ptserial' on a new line." Hit "ESC". Hold down "shift" then press "Z" twice. Type: /sbin/depmod -a tail /var/log/messages Post all that output. Also Look at the properties of "/dev/modem"(right click/properties) and tell me what the "link target says"

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I don't want to confuse you, but I think I should try to explain. We were o.k. with the old install... I just feel like having you get the practice and start over. You needed to be "root" in order to install the first module. The unresolved symbols probably arose because pctel wasn't loaded first...... I have configured, made, made install, made uninstall, made clean a thousand times already with this driver on my computer. I can do it in under 15 seconds.... It's not a very big Tarball.... Hopefully you will learn some stuff by doing this.... Post back...

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I don't know where the dev/modem is. Where is it?? I'm getting ready to start over. When i do restart in Redhat and then i have to go back to windows to look at your post to find out where it is at and then restart back in Redhat. Well the hell with that for now. I'm going to restart. Please reply back of the location.

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Derek.... You are asking where /dev/modem is..... If I said "go to C/Program Files" you could do that, right? It's in " /dev" It's called "modem" This is why we are having problems...

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I was having really tough time uninstalling. Now i'm having a tough installing the drivers. I think i got the drivers off. Will you run these commands by me again?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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Hey jon... you are going to s--- when you hear this. I just looked in the dev file under home. There is no modem in there. What problem is that going to cause now?? Please reply back.

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"I was having really tough time uninstalling. Now i'm having a tough installing the drivers. I think i got the drivers off." Wheres the output derek? How many times do I have to say it? No output, no help.... I don't know what you did. Only you do... I NEED OUTPUT... Why, oh why did I have you uninstall... Do you still have your pctel-0.9.6 folder?

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no folder. If you give me these commands again. I will get you the output. Please reply back.

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I'm starting to get frustrated again.... All the info is here on this thread.... You could almost get a good paying IT job from learning everything on this thread... Read it, love it, learn it, Live it.....

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I don't know why you can't just look up.... I will utilize my great COPY/PASTE abilities... tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz cd pctel-0.9.6 ./configure --with-hal=pct789 --with-kernel-includes=/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include make su make install /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial /sbin/lsmod vi etc/modules.conf Hit the "I" key Use arrow keys to go right BELOW alias char-major-62 ptserial "copy/paste:" below ptserial pctel "right BELOW 'alias char-major-62 ptserial' on a new line." Hit "ESC". Hold down "shift" then press "Z" twice. Type: /sbin/depmod -a tail /var/log/messages POST ALL THE OUTPUT

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I'm going to post the output. When i did the vi etc/modules.conf command. It was a blank screen with nothing on it. Why was it like that?? I did not post that sreen but i did got the output for the commands. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ cp /mnt/cdrom/pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz /home/dsanta [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz pctel-0.9.6/ pctel-0.9.6/misc/ pctel-0.9.6/misc/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/misc/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/SlackBuild.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/build_rpms.sh.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/pctel.spec.in pctel-0.9.6/misc/autogen.sh pctel-0.9.6/misc/pctel.spec pctel-0.9.6/README pctel-0.9.6/AUTHORS pctel-0.9.6/COPYING pctel-0.9.6/ChangeLog pctel-0.9.6/INSTALL pctel-0.9.6/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/NEWS pctel-0.9.6/acinclude.m4 pctel-0.9.6/aclocal.m4 pctel-0.9.6/configure pctel-0.9.6/configure.in pctel-0.9.6/install-sh pctel-0.9.6/missing pctel-0.9.6/mkinstalldirs pctel-0.9.6/cvscompile.sh pctel-0.9.6/FAQ pctel-0.9.6/src/ pctel-0.9.6/src/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/src/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/src/module/ pctel-0.9.6/src/module/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/src/module/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/src/module/ptmodule.c pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/ pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/ptserial-2.4.6.c pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial/ptserial-2.4.7.c pctel-0.9.6/lib/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/asus/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/asus/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/asus/i810hal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/cm8738/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/cm8738/pctel-cm8738.o pctel-0.9.6/lib/pct789/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/pct789/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/pct789/pcthal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/sis/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/sis/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/sis/i810hal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/via/ pctel-0.9.6/lib/via/dsp.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/via/via686ahal.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/lib/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/lib/control.a pctel-0.9.6/lib/vuart.o pctel-0.9.6/modules/ pctel-0.9.6/modules/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/modules/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/include/ pctel-0.9.6/include/pctel.h pctel-0.9.6/include/halwraps.h pctel-0.9.6/include/vuart.h pctel-0.9.6/include/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/include/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/m4/ pctel-0.9.6/m4/Makefile.am pctel-0.9.6/m4/Makefile.in pctel-0.9.6/m4/_pctel.m4 [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ cd pctel-0.9.6 [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ ./configure --with-hal=pct789 --with-kernel-includes=/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking build driver for... HAL_PCT789 checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... none checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for gawk... (cached) gawk checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h usability... yes checking /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h presence... yes checking for /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h... yes checking for Linux kernel version >= 2.4.0... yes checking for Linux kernel version >= 2.4.7... yes checking for mknod... mknod checking for chgrp... chgrp checking for chmod... chmod checking for depmod... no checking for rmmod... no checking for lsmod... no checking for modprobe... no checking for objdump... objdump checking for objcopy... objcopy configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating lib/Makefile config.status: creating modules/Makefile config.status: creating include/Makefile config.status: creating src/Makefile config.status: creating src/module/Makefile config.status: creating src/ptserial/Makefile config.status: creating misc/Makefile config.status: creating misc/pctel.spec config.status: creating misc/SlackBuild config.status: creating misc/build_rpms.sh config.status: creating m4/Makefile config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing default commands [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ make Making all in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making all in module make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' rm -f *~ \#* .*~ .\#* rm -f ptmodule.o rm -f ptmodule.o rm -f ../../modules/pctel.o gcc -D__KERNEL__ -Werror -Wno-trigraphs -fno-common -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -DHAL_PCT789 -I../../include -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"pctel\" -DVERSION=\"0.9.5\" -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -c -o ptmodule.o ptmodule.c ld -r -o ../../modules/pctel.o ptmodule.o ../../lib/control.a ../../lib/vuart.o ../../lib/pct789/dsp.a ../../lib/pct789/pcthal.a make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' Making all in ptserial make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' rm -f *~ \#* .*~ .\#* rm -f ptserial.o ptserial.c rm -f ptserial.o rm -f ../../modules/ptserial.o ln -s -f ptserial-2.4.7.c ../../src/ptserial/ptserial.c make ptserial.o make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -Werror -Wno-trigraphs -fno-common -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -DHAL_PCT789 -DBUILD_SYSTEM=\""`uname -s -m -r -p`\"" -DGCC_VERSION=\""`gcc --version | head -1`\"" -I../../include -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8/include/linux/modversions.h -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"pctel\" -DVERSION=\"0.9.5\" -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -c -o ptserial.o ptserial.c make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' ld -r -o ../../modules/ptserial.o ptserial.o make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making all in lib make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' Making all in modules make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' Making all in include make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/include' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/include' Making all in misc make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/misc' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/misc' Making all in m4 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/m4' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/m4' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6' [dsanta@localhost pctel-0.9.6]$ su Password: [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# make install Making install in src make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making install in module make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/module' Making install in ptserial make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src/ptserial' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/src' Making install in lib make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/lib' Making install in modules make[1]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g root -m 644 pctel.o /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g root -m 644 ptserial.o /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o /bin/sh: line 1: depmod: command not found make[2]: *** [install-exec-local] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dsanta/pctel-0.9.6/modules' make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# /sbin/insmod -f pctel Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o insmod: a module named pctel already exists [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# /sbin/insmod -f ptserial Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o insmod: a module named ptserial already exists [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by Tainted: PF ptserial 42468 0 (unused) pctel 1275392 0 [ptserial] udf 98400 0 (autoclean) parport_pc 19076 1 (autoclean) lp 8996 0 (autoclean) parport 37056 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] autofs 13268 0 (autoclean) (unused) 8139too 18088 0 mii 3976 0 [8139too] ipt_REJECT 3928 6 (autoclean) iptable_filter 2412 1 (autoclean) ip_tables 15096 2 [ipt_REJECT iptable_filter] sg 36524 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 18136 0 (autoclean) ide-scsi 12208 0 scsi_mod 107160 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi] ide-cd 35708 1 cdrom 33728 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] nls_iso8859-1 3516 2 (autoclean) nls_cp437 5116 1 (autoclean) vfat 13004 1 (autoclean) fat 38808 0 (autoclean) [vfat] printer 8928 0 keybdev 2944 0 (unused) mousedev 5492 1 hid 22148 0 (unused) input 5856 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 26348 0 (unused) usbcore 78784 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] ext3 70784 2 jbd 51892 2 [ext3] [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# vi etc/modules.conf [root@localhost pctel-0.9.6]# Please reply back.

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Is my modem working?? I need your help. I had not been on linuxquestions.org in serveral hours. Can you help me?? I gave you the output. Please reply back. Thanks.

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They are there. They are loaded. Try using your modem.... Did you back up your /etc/modules.conf like I told you to do? I hope so for your sake Browse to /etc find modules.conf open it up... Is it blank still? when you boot into red hat /sbin/lsmod Are they still there?

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I did a typo... If you had learned anything from all this you would have caught it.... vi /etc/modules.conf Your modem works Derek. I can no longer help you because it works. You'll have to make a new symlink for /dev/modem that points to dev/ttys15..... That's probably the only thing you will have to do. That and change the modules.conf to what I said. If that doesn't work you'll have to load the modules everytime you boot into RH manually. EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION I HAVE GIVEN YOU IS HERE... http://www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu/pctel.html

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My modem does not work. I don't give a s--- that i break this deal now. I'm going to use linuxquestions.org since you don't want to help me.

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How many times do i have to tell you my modem does not work?? I don't believe it works until i get pass that error message that says no modem found on your system.

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Yes it does work. You haven't even tried to use it so how can you say that? Your just not thinking Derek... I installed Red Hat 9 tonite... Just for you man... It did the same thing for me... You get into Network, click on the add button, and a little error screen comes up saying that it could not find a modem. Well, guess what Derek. I'm using it right now.... I didn't say "Oh no!!!! My modem doesn't work..." I said "Get the hell out of my face error screen.. You don't even know what the hell you are talking about." Your just not thinking this one through. It took you to the next screen... Set your connection up!!!!! Screw that error screen. It looked up to comm 4 and a couple other places and just gave you a canned response saying that IT couldn't FIND a modem. That doesn't mean that you don't have one.... Kill that error screen and proceed with my post that tells you how to enter all that information in..... Dude, if you want an OS that will do all the thinking for you, you are using the WRONG one.... Your modem is on "comm 16"!!!! It didn't look that far..... YOUR MODEM WORKS!!!!! It will not autoload those modules when you boot up everytime unless you have these 2 lines in /etc/modules.conf alias char-major-62 ptserial below ptserial pctel If that doesn't work and you just can't get it to autoload on every boot up, you are going to have to: /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial before you connect to the internet.... Big deal. Making a script that will run those 2 commands for you if you type "modem" in a Terminal Window will take about 20 seconds... Your just not using your head, plain and simple. If you do as I say, you will be able to get online. If you keep being obstinate and insisting that your modem doesn't work when you haven't even set up an account thru NETWORK, then you will never get online with Red Hat.... This is just getting plain silly now... I had hoped that you might understand at least a fraction of what I've been trying to teach you, but I haven't done anything for you apparently.... Good luck Derek. You are already done and you don't even realize it... Jon

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I've been reading your whole adventure here, because i'm trying to make these drivers work in red hat 9. I had red hat 8 a few days ago, and i had my modem working perfectly ( well, with the known bugs in the drivers ). What I did was just compile the drivers ( like you already did ) and just do insmod -f pctel ( yes the "-f" solves the kernel conflict blah's but nothing wrong happened, I dont know why it throws that message) insmod ptserial ( I don't know why the conflict error was only on the "pctel.o" ) And it worked perfectly ( just setting up the new connection in the network config thing. As you already described ). But then i installed red hat 9 and did the same thing. First of all, when i do insmod -f pctel or insmod -f ptserial it can't find the module. I had to do insmod -f /--path--/pctel.o I had to use the whole name. ( don't know why ) the same whith the ptserial.o Well, it all looked well ( "module loaded with warnigns....." ) But when i try to connect using the newly setup connection, IT DOESNT WORK. Don't know why. Worked perfectly on Red Hat8, but didn't worked on Red Hat 9. weird ah? I used a fresh install when installing RedHat 9. I'm gonna try installing RedHat 8 again and then upgrading the old programs... Any better ideas?

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Hey jon. I got pass that error message that says no modem found. Now i'm getting this message. cannot activate network ppp0. Why can't it activate?? I set up my account just fine. Please reply back. Thanks.

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Daniel, It's probably because of the Kernel. Kernel support for that driver only goes up to 2.4.18..... Red Hat 9 uses 2.4.20-8..... That would be my guess.... I told Derek it probably wouldn't work because of that. I knew it would work with Red Hat 8 cause it uses 2.4.18-4..... That sounds wierd that you had to specify the path to the moduales with insmod. Didin't you have to force load them? insmod -f??? And you do know that you have to load pctel first and then ptserial, right? And yes... There are alot of known bugs for that driver... I am assuming you already know of the how-to page that I posted above? I'm not too sure just doing an upgrade will remedy your problem. It should apply the new kernel when you upgrade to RH 9..... Well, let me know if I can help.... Actually what you should do as well is to send them an E-mail asking if they would please take into account all of their loyal customers who use Linux and to release the source code.... I use a conexant chipset on my winmodem and they gave Linuxant all of the source code for their drivers. They even come in RPM's.... All I have to do is double click on the rpm and then set up my connection in Network.... I love companies who work with the open source community..... Jon

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I need a step by step account of everything you do once you hit the desktop... In DETAIL.... I still need output even if your not using the terminal window.... Here would be an example: O.k. I get to the desktop. I click on "Network". Then I picked my nose really quick and wiped it on my dog. Then I clicked on this. Then I typed this. The I clicked on that.....and it said this. I'll look into it while you get some detail for me...

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Jon... I can only say one thing, you have done a magnificent job here and the patience you have displayed is just incredible. You really are a credit to the forum. I hope one day you can answer my query as efficiently.

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Sure, I'll help if I can... I remember seeing a post by you... I'll go look at it. If it's something I know or something I know that I can figure out, I'll give it a whirl.... I still don't think this modem deal is going to work out in the end. It's all going to boil down to having the wrong Kernel.... RH 8 and 9 are the same thing basically. If Derek would get ahold of 8 and then do all this, It would work....

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Hey jon. This is what i did. First i only use the terminal once to load. I will post below. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/insmod -f pctel Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o Warning: The module you are trying to load (/lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o) is compiled with a gcc version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work. Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: forced load /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o: create_module: Operation not permitted [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/insmod -f ptserial Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol COM_Vlcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol PctelInitCtrlVars /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol Pctel_module_free /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_ier /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_dll /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_dlm /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol GlobalTimer /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_ier /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_scr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_GetTimer /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_tx /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_dll /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_dlm /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_lcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_msr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_scr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_lcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_msr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_DoInterrupt /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_iir /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol PctelInitVUartVars /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_lsr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_mcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol modem_main /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol get_uart_rx /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_iir /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol Pctel_module_init /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_Deinit /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol dspMain /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol HAL_Init /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_mcr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: unresolved symbol put_uart_lsr /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o: Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license and it has unresolved symbols. The module may be trying to access GPLONLY symbols but the problem is more likely to be a coding or user error. Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they can help you. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ This is what i did next. RH button->System Settings->Network and then enter root password. I click new and then modem connection and then i click forward.I left prefix blank. I filled in the area code and phone number. I filled in login, password and provide name and then click forward.There was a choice between Automatically obtain IP address settings or Statically set IP addresses. So i checked Automatically obtain IP address settings. I check the box that says Automatically obtain DNS information from provider. I clicked forward and then apply.I went under the hardware tab i select Generic Modem and then edit.For modem device i typed in /dev/modem.Then for Baud Rate i select 460800. For flow control i select Software (XON/XOFF). For modem volume i select very high and check box for use touch tone dialing. Then i click ok. I click on DNS tab. For host name. I left it localhost.localdomain. I filled in Primary DNS and secondary DNS. I left teritiary DNS and DNS Search path both blank. Then file save. Then the X for close in the upper right hand corner. Then RH button->System Tools->Network Device Control. Let click on Network Device Control and then drag it to the desktop. Double click on Network Device Control to open. Then i select ppp0 and click Activate. Then i get this message redhat-config-network: Cannot activate network device ppp0. I really hope that you can help me right a way. Please reply back. Thanks jon.

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Why can't it activate the account?? Did i do everything right?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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O.k... First off, Let's go look at your output at the very beginning.... Can you see where it says "operation not permitted"?...... You have to be ROOT in order to load those modules. The first module did not load, so when you went to load the second one, it saw that the first one wasn't loaded and freaked out with all the unresolved symbol stuff..... Did you edit your /etc/modules.conf to include both those lines that I posted above? I would really like those to load automatically when you boot up. Also, before, you said that there was no /dev/modem Actually, I kinda' think you just passed it up. There is after all, over 7000 files in /dev So, do this... Get back into NETWORK and change the device name from /dev/modem to /dev/ttys15 We don't need /dev/modem... It's just a shortcut(symlink) that points to /dev/ttys15 So..... Change that, and then su vi /etc/modules.conf "Remember the commands we use to edit a file thru vi? "I" for insert, "ESC" to exit, then "SHIFT" + Z Z to save and then quit... What you need in modules.conf is: alias char-major-62 ptserial below ptserial pctel then type in a Terminal: /sbin/depmod -a REBOOT. Then type: /sbin/lsmod are "pctel" and "ptserial" listed? If they are then be happy and open up the desktop shortcut to Network Device Control and try activating your modem. Make sure you have your speaker volume cranked so you can tell if it is trying to dial. If those 2 modules are not loaded after a reboot, then you will have to: su /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial exit exit then go to your desktop shortcut and try to activate.... Post back with all the output from BOTH times you were at the desktop

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First i tryed what you said i even got output for you. You said it should take about 10 to 20 seconds to activate. No i don't think so. I was sitting there and it was not going activated. What's up with that?? I tryed several times for like 15 minutes or so. Nothing no sounds or nothing. Well here is my output. alias eth0 8139too alias char-major-62 ptserial alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : Here is some more output. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ su Password: [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f pctel Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o Warning: The module you are trying to load (/lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o) is compiled with a gcc version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work. Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module pctel loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f ptserial Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module ptserial loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/depmod -a [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by Tainted: PF ptserial 42468 0 (unused) pctel 1275392 0 [ptserial] i810_audio 27720 1 (autoclean) ac97_codec 13640 0 (autoclean) [i810_audio] soundcore 6404 2 (autoclean) [i810_audio] parport_pc 19076 1 (autoclean) lp 8996 0 (autoclean) parport 37056 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] autofs 13268 0 (autoclean) (unused) ipt_REJECT 3928 6 (autoclean) iptable_filter 2412 1 (autoclean) ip_tables 15096 2 [ipt_REJECT iptable_filter] sg 36524 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 18136 0 (autoclean) ide-scsi 12208 0 scsi_mod 107160 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi] ide-cd 35708 0 cdrom 33728 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] nls_iso8859-1 3516 1 (autoclean) nls_cp437 5116 1 (autoclean) vfat 13004 1 (autoclean) fat 38808 0 (autoclean) [vfat] printer 8928 0 keybdev 2944 0 (unused) mousedev 5492 1 hid 22148 0 (unused) input 5856 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 26348 0 (unused) usbcore 78784 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] ext3 70784 2 jbd 51892 2 [ext3] [root@localhost dsanta]# Please reply back. I really hope that i get my modem working tonight. Thanks jon.

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And then after you loaded your modules you tried to activate your modem? Did you also change /dev/modem to /dev/ttys15 in network BEFORE you activated your modem. You also didn't change your /etc/modules.conf like I told you to... That post did ABSOLUTELY nothing for me Derek. Let's try this AGAIN, only do EVERYTHING that I tell you to IN the ORDER that I tell you. " So, do this... Get back into NETWORK and change the device name from /dev/modem to /dev/ttys15 We don't need /dev/modem... It's just a shortcut(symlink) that points to /dev/ttys15 So..... Change that, and then su vi /etc/modules.conf "Remember the commands we use to edit a file thru vi? "I" for insert, "ESC" to exit, then "SHIFT" + Z Z to save and then quit... What you need in modules.conf is: alias char-major-62 ptserial below ptserial pctel then type in a Terminal: /sbin/depmod -a REBOOT. Then type: /sbin/lsmod are "pctel" and "ptserial" listed? If they are then be happy and open up the desktop shortcut to Network Device Control and try activating your modem. Make sure you have your speaker volume cranked so you can tell if it is trying to dial. If those 2 modules are not loaded after a reboot, then you will have to: su /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial exit exit then go to your desktop shortcut and try to activate.... Post back with all the output from BOTH times you were at the desktop" We are going in circles here Derek. Read my post..

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I did change it from /dev/modem. I have no clue what you are talking about vi /etc/modules.conf. That's why i posted that. It seems like there is nothing to change in there. My god. What the hell are you doing?? I don't understand that vi command. Please reply back.

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Hey, Do you mean reboot my computer after that command or reboot the terminal??

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Reboot your computer. The whole purpose for rebooting the computer is to see if it loads the modules for you. It won't load the modules for you until you have those 2 lines in /etc/modules.conf and then /sbin/depmod -a Don't type exit twice like I told you too either or you will loose your output....

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What the hell are you talking about?? I don't what two line to type in. My good. This is really started to piss me off.

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Once again jon. Look at this output and tell me what to type in and where. Believe me if this site has something to set the postes to larger. I will do it. I'm really getting piss off. alias eth0 8139too alias char-major-62 ptserial alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : Read that above. READ. READ.

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Dude, I have read it. It's not right. You need to add: below ptserial pctel We have used the "vi" command several times now..... None of this is sticking with you. TYPE: vi /etc/modules.conf Hit the "I" key Make a new blank line right below alias char-major-62 ptserial type: below ptserial pctel Hit the "ESC" key Hold down "SHIFT" and the press the "Z" key twice. Why do I keep having to tell you this stuff when we have done it a hundred times already? Once you get back to the terminal window, type: /sbin/depmod -a REBOOT your computer. I didn't know it was possible to reboot a terminal window.... Once you hit your desktop again, type: /sbin/lsmod are "pctel" and "ptserial" listed in there? If so then try to activate your modem again. If they are NOT listed, type: su /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial then try to activate your modem..... Damn.... Post back....

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What do you want me to type in?? one question.... i have no clue what to type in. reply back.

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Can you please tell me what to type in?? I'm kind of relaxing and chilling out at the moment. Dude you had me going. I thought i was'nt going to chill out but i did. Please reply back. Thanks.

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Derek, derek, derek..... There's a courtyard party for my complex, and I keep coming up here to see how you are doing. Think I'm calling it quits for the evening.... Whenever you see the word type: that means I want you to type whatever is below that. I can't state it any more sucinctly than I already have. Let's continus tommorrow. I've told you 2 or 3 times in a row what you need to do. You keep taking steps back on me instead of forward.... I WANT YOU TO TYPE: below ptserial pctel Do you understand that? You modules.conf should read: alias eth0 8139too alias char-major-62 ptserial below ptserial pctel alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : Does it say that? No, it does not. It says: alias eth0 8139too alias char-major-62 ptserial alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : That means you are MISSING the line: below ptserial pctel Talk to you tommorrow... Jon

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ok i understand. I thought you was saying below as below a line but below is part of the command. ok i try that. Thanks.

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Once your /etc/modules.conf reads: alias eth0 8139too alias char-major-62 ptserial below ptserial pctel alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : Try rebooting and then type: /sbin/lsmod Are those two modules listed? If those two are listed after you reboot, then you do not have to type the commands below. If they are NOT listed after a reboot then you will have to type the commands below everytime you hit your desktop. I'm not even sure changing /etc/modules.conf is going to work.... If changing /etc/modules.conf DOES NOT load the modules EVERYTIME you reboot, Just type: su /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial EVERYTIME you boot into Red Hat Then try connecting to the internet.... Good luck, Jon

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Well Derek... I hope this works for you. Remember, I told you not to get your hopes up. Your using the wrong Kernel version. If you get some minor errors, we can try to trouble shoot them. We are pretty much at the end of the rope now.... Your driver is configured and loaded and your account is set up..... I hope it activates for you. Just remember you have to load those modules before you try to get on line... Let me know... Hopefully you'll get lucky. This would most certainly work on RH 8..... It's NEVER a good idea to go with a brand new version right off the bat.... I would keep an eye out for a newer version of your driver. I'm sure they are working on one for 2.4.20 Kernels... Let me know how it goes... Jon

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Well. First it did not load automatically. So i had to load those commands. It's takeing for ever and ever to get my account activated. Can we just recompile my kernel to an older version?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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Well, you can if you want. Ive never done it so dont look at me. I found some really good info online tho... It actually sounds kinda fun. Im going to learn it for myself but its going to be a while.... Sorry Derek..... You give up pretty easy.... What if your modem really works and you stopped just short of getting it to work...... http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO/index.html

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Ok, you guys stop doing this. Even if it was possible you really should wait for a newer version supporting this kernel version. Unfortunately, the pctel driver version 0.9.7-6 does not yet support it either. Rigth now i'm waiting for the dev team to check that compatibility ( i hope they will reply my e-mail ) Use red hat 8 instead for a while. By the way thanks for your help.

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Jon, Why does it have to be so hard?? Why can't my modem just work?? It was taking for ever to activate. I call that my modem is not working. I did not give up so easy. Please reply back with some help. I would never be able to recompile a kernel on my own. With my luck if i tryed it would probably shut down my whole Linux system. That how bad i would screw it up.

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Well, It's not hard, It's just that you jumped to a brand new OS and you haven't given someone time to make a modem driver for it. The person who makes these drivers does it for free. I'd forget about messing with your kernel. Look at this page and tell me if you could do that. I understand most of it but am really foggy on adding modules. I really wouldn't know what I needed, much less you. http://www.keyspan.com/support/linux/docs/recompile/ Move to Redhat 8 or wait for a newer driver. Unless you think you could figure all that stuff out... First off, you don't quit on a problem until you atleast check the logs and see what your computer was doing at the time it was trying to do something. I probably still won't be able to help you but it would be nice to know what your computer was doing at the time of modem activation... Type: su /sbin/insmod -f pctel /sbin/insmod -f ptserial tail -f /var/log/messages Then leave that terminal window open and go to Network Device control. Try to activate your modem again. Let it sit for ATLEAST 1 minute. Post everything that the terminal window says... Jon

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Also let me know if that little window goes away at all..... The one that says "activating network device ppp0". Does it say that? You need to write down exactally what that says.... If it does go away, does the bigger Network Device Control window say "Active" under the status column? I need to know everything you see as well as the ouput from the terminal window.

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ok for now i give you the output while i restart my computer again. Here is the output and hold on for a couple of minutes. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ su Password: [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f pctel Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o Warning: The module you are trying to load (/lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o) is compiled with a gcc version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work. Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module pctel loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f ptserial Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module ptserial loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# tail -f /var/log/messages Jun 5 19:18:00 localhost kernel: i810_audio: Defaulting to base 2 channel mode.Jun 5 19:18:00 localhost kernel: i810_audio: Resetting connection 0 Jun 5 19:18:00 localhost kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: ADS96 (Analog Devices AD1885) Jun 5 19:18:00 localhost kernel: i810_audio: AC'97 codec 0 Unable to map surround DAC's (or DAC's not present), total channels = 2 Jun 5 19:18:00 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 Jun 5 19:18:45 localhost su(pam_unix)[4110]: session opened for user root by dsanta(uid=500) Jun 5 19:19:15 localhost kernel: PCTel device[02:0d.0](0x68) found "PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02)", iobase=0x1400, irq=5. Jun 5 19:19:15 localhost kernel: PCTel driver version 0.9.5 [5.05c-4.27.215 (09-14-2001)] (PCT789) (2002-01-31) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled. Jun 5 19:19:15 localhost kernel: PCTel driver built on [Linux 2.4.20-8 i686 i686 "2.4.20-8 "] with gcc-gcc (GCC) 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5). Jun 5 19:19:15 localhost kernel: ttyS15 at 0x1400 (irq = 5) is a PCTel Jun 5 19:19:48 localhost ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/ttyS15 at 460800 Jun 5 19:19:48 localhost kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California Jun 5 19:19:48 localhost kernel: PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 Jun 5 19:19:48 localhost pppd[4178]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Jun 5 19:19:49 localhost wvdial[4194]: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53 Jun 5 19:19:49 localhost wvdial[4194]: Initializing modem.

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ok there is a window that comes up and it says this. Activating network device ppp0, please wait... Please reply back. Thanks.

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Jon, The last time i download Redhat 8 it had either errors on it or it had a bug and i could not install it. I have a question for you. If i tell you right here then everyone wants you to do it for them. You could either let me tell you right here and you could think about and you could tell them no or you could give me your e-mail address and i e-mail you then you reply back with an answer. It's probably going to take at least over night to do. I don't know i only have a 56k modem. Please reply back. Thanks jon.

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It just stops on that last line, huh? Initializing modem? Doesn't do anything else? Well. o.k. It is a 789 chipset as I suspected. Not sure why your sound chip is acting up. We might want to comment that out for now in modules.conf That is a known bug with your modem driver. Not playing nice with sound chips, that is. I use the same one. Most computers do.... Your I/O ports and IRQ looks right. Can't really say for sure until you cross check in Windows but I would say it is right... Well, Do something for me, will you? Open up: /etc/wvdial.conf Make sure your user name, password are correct. Actually, if you trust me, Send it to me via EMAIL. Don't post it here.... Also type: /sbin/lspci -v /sbin/lspci -n Give me the output here... This is going to take a little while and I still might not be able to get it working. The only thing I can think of is to comment out your sound module...... Up to you..... We can continue for a little bit or you can start downloading RH8..... Don't you know anyone with Broadband? They are the same OS.... Diffirent Kernels... A few updated packages...

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I don't know anyone with broadband. The command you gave me i got permission denied. In root and without being in root. yes i will continue. I got output. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ su Password: [root@localhost dsanta]# /etc/wvdial.conf bash: /etc/wvdial.conf: Permission denied [root@localhost dsanta]# [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/lspci -v 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 04) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0082 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0 Memory at 44000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [disabled] [size=64M] Memory at 42000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB PCI Bridge (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=64 I/O behind bridge: 00001000-00001fff Memory behind bridge: 40000000-402fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 43000000-43ffffff 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 11) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 11) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0083 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 I/O ports at 2480 [size=16] 00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0083 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 2440 [size=32] 00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 0083 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 2460 [size=32] 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 11) Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 008c Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 I/O ports at 2000 [size=256] I/O ports at 2400 [size=64] 02:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446 (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Flags: medium devsel Memory at 43000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M] Expansion ROM at [disabled] [size=32K] 02:0d.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02) (prog-if 04 [Hayes/16750]) Subsystem: PCTel Inc: Unknown device 0001 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5 I/O ports at 1400 [size=64] Capabilities: 02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10) Subsystem: Accton Technology Corporation EN-1207D Fast Ethernet Adapter Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 1000 [size=256] Memory at 40000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Expansion ROM at [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ /sbin/lspci -n 00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:1130 (rev 04) 00:02.0 Class 0300: 8086:1132 (rev 04) 00:1e.0 Class 0604: 8086:244e (rev 11) 00:1f.0 Class 0601: 8086:2440 (rev 11) 00:1f.1 Class 0101: 8086:244b (rev 11) 00:1f.2 Class 0c03: 8086:2442 (rev 11) 00:1f.4 Class 0c03: 8086:2444 (rev 11) 00:1f.5 Class 0401: 8086:2445 (rev 11) 02:0b.0 Class 0300: 1013:00b8 02:0d.0 Class 0703: 134d:7897 (rev 02) 02:0f.0 Class 0200: 1113:1211 (rev 10) [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ Please reply back. Thanks jon.

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I didn't want you to type that. There was no Type: above /etc/wvdial.conf was there? I want you to browse to /etc/wvdial.conf and double click on it. It's a "notepad". Choose display contents. COPY/PASTE and SEND IT TO ME IN AN EMAIL you will be telling the whole world sensitive information that ONLY you should know.

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I don't understand where that is at. Where is it at?? I don't know where that file is. Please reply back. I can't do nothing if i don't know where that file is.

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I have all sorts of new ideas to try but frankly, this is going to take weeks at the rate we are communicating. If I could just have 2 hours sitting down at your computer, I could try everything. As it stands now, this is just too hard to do like we are...... Read the notes at the bottom of this link. http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/viewdetails.php?id_no=15 I don't know derek. This just isn't working out doing this 3rd party, long distance install/configuration....... I would try to compile it a few diffirent ways. I would also first comment out your sound module and then try to activate your modem.... Your configure arguements are critical and maybe we didn't take the extra step or two when we should have.... You should really just get RH8. Find Red Hat 8 Linux for dummies. It has the CD's in the back. It doesn't cost that much.... There are a few web sites that sell Red Hat 8 for 5 bucks or so as well...... This is just going to take too long the way we are going..... Ultimately, It will probably still not work cause you are not running the right kernel.

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jon, check your e-mail right now... Please reply back.

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I told you where it is. /etc/wvdial.conf This is what I'm talking about. You don't even know how to browse through the file directories... The most simple and basic thing you can do on Linux or ANY OS for that matter..... What is so hard about that? If we were talking about windows and I said: go to C/Program Files/Outlook Express/blah.exe Could you find blah.exe? I am thinking, no... You couldn't..... Lets just throw the towel in Derek. It's no big deal. Go get Red Hat 8 and then redo everything you have done.. It's all listed here for future reference....

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jon, I have Linux for Dummies. It came up just to be command when i install it. I'm going to try to install 8 again.

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It's got RH 8 in the back? What do you mean it just came up command? All you got was a command line when you booted up the CD? And If you have RH8, why didn't you say this before? You could have been online a long time ago....

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After i install Redhat 8 and then when i boot into Redhat 8. I get command line. It says login. I did'nt even create an login name yet. When i try to type in a login name it says login incorrect. I did not put it in text mode i choose graphical mode. Please reply back.

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jon, Why do i get that command line?? Why can't i start Redhat 8 in graphical mode?? Please reply back.

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Did you not do that on the install process? Did you create a user name besides root on the install process? Try this..... When it says login:Type: root -enter your password- Then when you get to a shell prompt, type: startx If you get an error and X(gui) doesn't load, type: redhat-config-xfree86 I don't think it will manually detect anything. You have to pick your monitor type and your video card make....Get in Windows device manager and write them down... Then type: startx

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what's goin' on Derek? Get it yet?

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yeah i found out why. I had to go back in the installation and configure my monitor and video card for the right settings. Please give me some time to configure Redhat 8. I mean by that to set up so i can write to my windows partition and configure my desktop. Thanks jon. Please reply back.

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You didn't need to reinstall...... All you had to do was type: redhat-config-xfree86 when you hit that command line.... Oh well... Looks just like Red Hat 9, doesn't it?

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If you don't mind i'm about to try to jump on the drivers and internet. I will let you know how it comes along.

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ok jon. The samething in Redhat 8. I will post the output. [dsanta@localhost dsanta]$ su Password: [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f pctel Using /lib/modules/2.4.18-14/misc/pctel.o Warning: The module you are trying to load (/lib/modules/2.4.18-14/misc/pctel.o) is compiled with a gcc version 2 compiler, while the kernel you are running is compiled with a gcc version 3 compiler. This is known to not work. Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.18-14/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.18-14/misc/pctel.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module pctel loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# /sbin/insmod -f ptserial Using /lib/modules/2.4.18-14/misc/ptserial.o Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.18-14/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - GPL linked with proprietary libraries See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.18-14/misc/ptserial.o will taint the kernel: forced load Module ptserial loaded, with warnings [root@localhost dsanta]# tail -f /var/log/messages Jun 6 18:45:03 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 Jun 6 18:45:04 localhost xinetd[1031]: warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected Jun 6 18:45:12 localhost kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jun 6 18:45:12 localhost kernel: sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Jun 6 18:45:13 localhost kernel: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize! Jun 6 18:45:57 localhost su(pam_unix)[1089]: session opened for user root by (uid=500) Jun 6 18:46:33 localhost kernel: PCTel device[02:0d.0](0x68) found "PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02)", iobase=0x1400, irq=5. Jun 6 18:46:33 localhost kernel: PCTel driver version 0.9.5 [5.05c-4.27.215 (09-14-2001)] (PCT789) (2002-01-31) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled. Jun 6 18:46:33 localhost kernel: PCTel driver built on [Linux 2.4.18-14 i686 i686 "2.4.18-14 "] with gcc-gcc (GCC) 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7). Jun 6 18:46:33 localhost kernel: ttyS15 at 0x1400 (irq = 5) is a PCTel Jun 6 18:47:29 localhost ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/ttyS15 at 460800 Jun 6 18:47:29 localhost kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California Jun 6 18:47:29 localhost kernel: PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 Jun 6 18:47:29 localhost pppd[1152]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Jun 6 18:47:30 localhost wvdial[1168]: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53 Jun 6 18:47:30 localhost wvdial[1168]: Initializing modem. tail -f /var/log/messages Why is it keep on stopping like that?? Please reply back. Thanks.

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Hey jon. Can you help me get pass that part where it says initializing modem?? It stops right there. Please reply back. Thanks jon.

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jon, Can you please help me?? Are you going to reply back?? Please reply back.

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ok jon. When are you going to be online?? How long do i have to wait until you help me?? I'm trying to wait and be patience. I'm calm and relax. I did what you and everyone else told me to do. They told me to use Redhat 8. I still can't get my modem to work. jon, Can you please help me some time today?? Please reply back. Thanks jon.

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jon. Why are you giving up on me?? Are you trying to tell me that you don't want to help me anymore?? reply back.

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No dude. I had class all day friday and saturday. My laptop keyboard is acting up and some keys dont work as well...Having to paste certain letters.Give me a week to send it to dell. comment out sound modules and then try it. Still think you should post all your output to that pctel mailing list.... Jon

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How do you want me to comment out sound modules?? Please reply back.

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How hard is NetBSD to configure my modem?? Will NetBSD recognize my modem?? What about Darwin?? Please reply back.

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You have a WINMODEM... They only run on Windows.... Unless someone happens to make a driver for it... I am still having to paste some letters. My forward and back slash key doesnt work along with my hyphen key, end braket, end parenthesis, plus sign, apostrophe, quatation and the p key.. I will still help you but I NEED to send this in to dell ASAp. Its a laptop and I have no external keyboard... I cant help you now. All my important keys are missing for commands... Im really tired of pasting this stupid p..... Redo ALL of your modem from cp to inserting the modules then do /sbin/lspci -v /sbin/lspci -n ut all that in a text file. Then put your modules.conf file at the end. Hold on to that...

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Do this as well.. Maybe this will get it to work.... su vi /etc/modules.conf press the I key put a # right before alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio Do you understand on the same line right before that then hit the ESC key and then hold down SHIFT and press the Z key twice then type /sbin/depmod -a Reboot the machine and then load the modules and try to connect... I cant and wont post anymore until I get my computer back from dell... Good luck Jon

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I was reading your post. I do not understand what you want me to do. Please reply back. Thanks.

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Hey jon, Did you get your computer back from dell?? Are you ready to help me?? Please reply back. Thanks jon.

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jon, When can you help me?? How will i know when you are ready to help me?? Did you get your computer back from dell?? I have been waiting almost a week for you to help me. Please reply back. Thanks jon.

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