Wow Robbo hasan't commented yet? Better update your list robbo it seems to be getting smaller!

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Thanks for the comment flame this. So where would you suggest a "STUPID" person look if not in a forum for Linux? Are you really trying to say you don't know? Why do you consider this a stupid question? Just because I am new th the Linux environment does not mean I am new to the forum! I've answered my share of what seem to be trivial questions. I'm sure they weren't to the one that posted the question though, and I was glad to help. I was looking for input on the power of LINUX, where else better to find this answer be but in a forum of LINUX users. So let me rephrase the question, What noticable performance gains does Linux have over other OS's. Does it have better uptime results or will it crash the same as windows? Why do so many people use Linux? It can't just be because it's free and it's NOT Microsoft, or is it?

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G'day, Bought a new computer game, can't be bothered replying properly, will when i get round to it, too busy trying to finish it. Robbo. IE5 is the best browser, who gives if it is based on Mosaic, that doesn't mean a frigging thing.

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Sorry correct Ext2 for EXT3 for a journaled files system. Ext2 is not. Oh Robo how much did you pay for your game? http://www.flightgear.org/ I think I will shut down Mozilla when I play. Its a good thing you like IE5 so much because sadly you can't shut IE5 off now can you? but hey that is what swap space if for.

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I find IE very slow on my win system (maybe it;s just me I don't know) I think it is due to the intergration with the OS itself. actully it dose mean somthing that IE is based on MOSAIC you see because Mosaic is basically netscape (I think they were made by the same person) which means IE is based on netscape. there are many microsoft products that microsoft did NOT invent they just bought (or ripped off!) this happens with all companies but microsoft is the front runner in that hell they even bought DOS!! SO robbo I am looking forward to your rebuttle to mine and james points about your list I really am starting to enjoy these conversations

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Reasons to use Linux over Windows 1. Cost: Linux is free while Windows ranges from $80 to $250 (less for upgrades $50 or so for win9x). On the server license cost will sky rocket to thousands for upgrade Win2000 versions to client connect licenses and third party software that is left out on a standard Linux/BSD system including C and C++ compilers. 2. Stability: MS claims no "study" has been done to prove stability. Well they would not dare found a study. Word of mouth customer satisfaction is far more reliable than a vendor funded claim. My server below. 12:39PM up 84 days, 3:27, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 3. Open standards: You cannot be locked into a vendor. 4. PnP Linux has been for years while only 9X has been but not NT. 5. Windows is fragmented: DOS, Win3.1, Win95, Win98, Win mil, Win2000, WinCE. while libraries in Linux need to be updated this is really not much of a problem given Linux is OSS and apps are easily recompiled. 6 Windows9x or NT has no loadable modules support while a simple "modprobe" in Linux will load the module. Loading a driver in Linux requires no reboot while something as trivial as changing an IP address requires a reboot in Windows. 7. Support: MS does not support Windows but relies on computer vendors to do so. Large Linux vendors directly offer support as well as VA Linux and IBM. 8 Documentation: Linux is the best documented OS to date and huge archives can be found in news groups, universities and distribution sites. Windows does not have any white papers on things as basic as the registry. 9. Scripting: Automation and small procedures are easily created in Linux while Windows makes this difficult at best. 10. Scalability: Linux can run on an embedded device to a 386, to an S390 mainframe. separate incompatible WinOSes are needed and/or no longer supported and mainframe is out of the question. Lnux also works seamlessly with commercial UNIX machines can run on well over a hundred CPUs. 11.Portability: Windows run on x86 compatible. Linux runs on x86, Alpha, Sparc PPC, mk, MIPS, S390, and a few others. 12. Alternate configurations: Linux kernels may be recompiled for optimization and the GUI is separate from the kernel itself. Running a GUI on a server is a waste of resources while Win2000 must run a GUI. Linux may be optimized as a router or firewall. 13 Security: Linux exploits are still far below NT exploits. NT still has exploits then all other OSes combined even though it is still on a minority of machines. On the workstation Win9x always runs as root is is often the victim of a virus. Even if there was a Linux virus an mail can be opened as a non privileged user.A Linux virus is almost unheard of. Linux admins will also find openBSD(another free Unix) as a good security option and against this Windows2000 is laughable. See openBSD.org 14. Linux uses less swap space than windows and when it does uses more efficient swap partitions as opposed to swap files 15. Linux tends to use less disk space than windows. 16. Linux GUIs are generally superior to Windows in many areas due to skin-able interfaces and virtual desktop(cannot run out of room). Many interfaces are configured to look like windows. Windows desktops are geared towards business users. (I often Run KDE2 at home but would never at work where I use GNUstep). 17 Remote administration: Linux can be easily and securely maintained with ssh (or less secure telnet). If GUI is required then xclients are easily exported to a workstation(money savings on video cards and monitors). Windows is very difficult to maintain remotely and typically requires the purchase of additional software. 18. Bug reports on Linux have a fix within days while Windows takes months before it is even acknowledged by Microsoft. 19. Linux is OSS as well as the usually associated programs and can be modified by some users. 20. Using Linux will not support a rather corrupt MS which has been found to engage in poor business practices. 21. Linux future is certain due to a community larger than any commercial offering. 22. Wine: Linux can run many Windows programs while Windows must use Win32 23 Linux knowledge can lead to much higher paying Unix jobs(I know I am one) 24. Linux is Fun. Are there reasons to run windows? On the client yes (but then why not dual boot Linux is free?) 1. Games support is better in Win9x as of today 2. Windows Office for the few that need those feature(there is a minority that actually does) 3. The are still quite a few Win32 programs not ported to Linux. On the server almost no reason to use Windows(that I know). On my server I run NFS and Samba and can file server or application serve to ANY OS.(At home I mount the same file sytem no matter what I boot)

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I paid $14.95 (AU) for my game. James, Ring Microsoft, they support it, both via email and telephone, at least MS Australia do, I'd assume it is the same in most countries. MS have both word-of-mouth and actual DATA to proove reliability, as well as ganrantees, Linux has only word-of-mouth. Yes you get paid more, well done to you, but that while that is good for you, think of the business that is paying you, I'm sure they'd rather pay you less but they are forced to pay more. A lawyer or a politician doesn't need to know Linux and i'd say they get a s---load more cash than you.

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I don't really Like Flight Sims, so that site seems kinda useless. If you are having troubles turning IE5 off, email me and i'll tell you how, it is very easy. Robbo

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Robbo, FYI : We have Frontpage extentions 98 so our people(I really do not support it but it is on my machine) called MS "support" when Frontpage clients would give errors and the only thing they said was upgrade to 2000(which did not work). Don't worry though I figured out the problem not MS. FYI do not make subwebs very big because the client will time out waiting for the O(N) algorithm to finish. Did MS tell anyone this? Noooooo! Could they diagnose it when it was the problem? Noooooooo. But good old truss on Solaris could. Well the reason why Unix pays more is that it does more. Two of us support the our intranet in a large corp one works part time and I often have time to help out the ecommerce team. The database, FTP server, and News server(news is Sparc Linux) never go down and all I do is add users(400 day uptimes until hardware upgrades). The Web server always has development going on so it will keep you busy in any case. but our uptime was better than our mainframes at over 99.9% last year :-) I do get calls when our NT mail servers went down users wanted to know why mail was not comming off the box to out smtp host so I will admit Unix has no answer when NT machines it depends on goes down. Do you really think an NT adminstrator who supports a work group server is going to be paid what a good person who supports Unix machine in the can do for the whole enterprise? You see, janitors do not make too much money either but go ahead and pay your defence lawyer what a janitor is paid. Its the same thing right?

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Man there would be Way too many headaches if you were an NT admin LOL

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James, Its called suply and demand, a simple busuness term. Unix is of high demand at the moment, and you are one of only a few who can supply the help they need, NT has many experts, so they must charge less or they wont get a job. For your information a janitor (a garbo? dont use janitor over here) actually get paid a hell of alot. ask one, some crap about the risk of needle in bins or crap. You'd find it is actually a good salary, though a crap job, as most jobs with computers would be. Robbo.

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Hey Robbo, you said you could kill IE5...TELL ME! I've been trying for ages. I agree that Micro$oft is a ripoff but win2k is a good prod. Dj Blind

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get a life and be adults (if you are)

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