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Name: linux_newbie
Date: October 31, 2003 at 08:14:41 Pacific
OS: Redhat 8 KDE
CPU/Ram: P2 400Mhz 300Mb
Comment:

I'm finally warming up to linux, althogh to be honest i don't feel as comfortable with it as with windowz. It is a bit of a culture shock to go from beign able to do anything in one OS to being a helpless ass in another.

One of the things i'm feeling like an ass is the mouse. KDE wasn't working right once so i just switched to a s---y mouse setting. The problem is now i have no middle button (apperantly fairly important) i can't really count on wheel support either.

The mouse is a Microsoft Ps/2 one. if i try going to the serial PS/2 three button option the mouse just skrews up and there is no using it. Any suggestions?

Also where are my executable (binarys in linux jargon?) files? Everynow and then i open a file and program in my computer that rocks opens it. Its that PS/PDF viewer which i like more then xpdf. Problem is I can't find it for the life of me! Is there a search word/command i could use to find executables considering linux doesn't use extensions? You know a sort of linux equivalent of windowz' search *.exe function.

thnx in advance

linux_newbie



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Response Number 1
Name: cornstalk
Date: October 31, 2003 at 13:09:39 Pacific
Reply:

Go to a bash prompt, type 'man which' and read up on the 'which' command. You will find this useful. You might also read up on 'man type'.


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Response Number 2
Name: C_Legend
Date: October 31, 2003 at 15:04:07 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry about the culture shock, but welcome to Linux.

I guess I'm old-fashioned, as I only use a 2 button mouse without scroll wheels/etc. What do you mean by "apperantly fairly important" with regards to the middle mouse button? I've been using Linux for over 5 years and have not found a middle mouse button necessary. I've always only needed "mouseconfig" from a command prompt to set up my mouse, aside from response settings (set up in Gnome/KDE). By the way, I'm using a Microsoft PS/2 serial mouse, as well, running on Redhat 8.

The executable Linux programs are those with the "x" permission set. Enter "ls -al" at any directory prompt and the files with "x" on the left are executable for that particular group (user, group, other).

To look for a particular file, there are a number of ways of doing this, such as "locate" and "find". For instance, at a command prompt:

# find / -name "filename"

(Searching from the root (/) for the filename "filename")

You could also use "rpm" with Redhat, such as:

# rpm -qal|grep "filename"

(List all files in all packages, looking for "filename")

The easiest way for a newbie to find apps in the gui is just to look through the menus. You could also look through all the packages, by entering this:

# rpm -qa|more

Then, when you think you have found the right package, you can enter this:

# rpm -ql packagename

(don't enter the version number, just the packagename, such as "xpdf", not "xpdf-1.01-8". This will show all files in the package. The executable ought to be in there.)

Enter "man rpm" for further info.

The other "pdf" viewer I use is Adobe's Acrobat Reader, which is downloadable from their site.

Good luck.


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Response Number 3
Name: 3Dave
Date: November 1, 2003 at 02:46:22 Pacific
Reply:

You can also use locate to find files.
$ locate filename

Locate refers to database which needs to be updated with
# updatedb

You can find a quick and dirty list of binaries with:
$ locate bin | less
Most programs will be installed under /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin etc

FYI you can find out what sort of file something is with the "file" command without having to rely on extensions:
$ file /path/to/filename

To get your middle mouse button working, check your /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4) file and make sure that emulate3buttons is not enabled (pressing both buttons at once is the same as middle mouse click). If you have a wheel mouse, make sure that the protocol you are using is IMPS2 and not just PS2 and also ZAxisMapping is set to 4 & 5.

C_Legend....I'm surprised you don't use the middle mouse button....it's an easy way to paste text.


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Response Number 4
Name: linux_newbie
Date: November 1, 2003 at 09:49:32 Pacific
Reply:

Thnx for all your help.

culutre shock or not i'm not going back to Microsoft. Destryoing the cookie cutter is the price of freedom in any situation.


Linux_newbie


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Response Number 5
Name: C_Legend
Date: November 1, 2003 at 14:54:22 Pacific
Reply:

3Dave -

I suppose the biggest reason I haven't used the middle mouse button is that I don't have a mouse with more than 2 buttons, and have never even tried using the "emulate 3 buttons" thing. So, maybe I'll never know how handy it could be to paste text. :-)

linux_newbie -

I certainly appreciate your attitude.


I wish you both the best of luck.


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Response Number 6
Name: 3Dave
Date: November 3, 2003 at 00:53:58 Pacific
Reply:

C_Legend
I take it you know how to use the
emulate3buttons if set in your XF86Config
file? Pressing both buttons at the same
time is the same as middle clicking.


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Response Number 7
Name: C_Legend
Date: November 4, 2003 at 02:02:33 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks, 3Dave. I don't know what I could accomplish with the use of a 3rd mouse button (emulated or not), though. Considering how long it took me to get used to using the right mouse button, it may be a lost cause, unless I can put it to practical use, on a consistent basis.


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Response Number 8
Name: 3Dave
Date: November 4, 2003 at 06:54:06 Pacific
Reply:

C_Legend
SNIP
get used to using the right mouse button
/SNIP

Did you come over from a mac?

I personally used to use windoze and
instead of using right-click > copy then
right-click > paste found it much quicker
to use Ctrl & C and Ctrl & V (I'm a fan of
using the keyboard)....now under linux I
just highlight text with the mouse then
middle-click where I want to put it.

It took a while to get used to (eg if you
acidentally highlight some more text before
pasting you lose what was on your
clipboard!) but I'm glad I did as it has
sped up my work a little.


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Response Number 9
Name: C_Legend
Date: November 4, 2003 at 12:02:04 Pacific
Reply:

Nope, didn't come over from the Mac (although could see why you'd think that). I came from the pre-Windows days, and like you, prefer the keyboard. Early on with Windows (3.1), I used to even swap the right and left mouse buttons to get some use out of the right one. I'm finally comfortable with using it as intended now. Unfortunately, I don't think I have the finger dexterity to pull off the maneuver you speak of, with the 2 buttons at the same time and not accidentally highlighting something else in the process, at least not on a consistent basis. I think you may have inspired me to try it, though. Wish me luck.


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Response Number 10
Name: Sandman
Date: November 7, 2003 at 06:27:57 Pacific
Reply:

I guess I'm just a weirdo, I'm lost with anything less then five buttons and a wheel LOL.

Sandman


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Response Number 11
Name: 3Dave
Date: November 11, 2003 at 03:22:38 Pacific
Reply:

Sandman:

Don't you mean a mouse with five buttons,
three scroll wheels and a chiller to keep
your beer in!=o)


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Response Number 12
Name: Sandman
Date: November 11, 2003 at 03:46:40 Pacific
Reply:

HOLY CRAP I think I'd get lost with three wheels LOL. Maybe make the third wheel a dedicated volume knob.

I think your onto something the chiller idea :)

Sandman


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