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Name: tvc
Date: December 24, 2008 at 11:18:15 Pacific
OS: Linux 2.6.18 kernel
CPU/Ram: 2 G
Product: N/a / N/A
Comment:

Want to mount my Windows NTFS disks from within my Red Had with 2.6.18 kernel. The "man" pages tell me to use "-t ntfs" for mounting NTFS drives, and he replies with:

mount: unknown filesystem type ntfs

And the manpage DO list "ntfs" as valid type. Is it because I need to install a package ? Why does the manpage list optional software settings, as opposed to things really included ?



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Response Number 1
Name: paulsep
Date: December 26, 2008 at 09:46:23 Pacific
Reply:

I know about this problem on OpenSuSE Linux.
Here you have to install ntfs-3g to solve that problem.

Take a look at http://www.ntfs-3g.org.

When installed ntfs-3g, the syntax for mounting ntfs drives is:

mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows

or in /etc/fstag

/dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0

Paul


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Response Number 2
Name: tvc
Date: December 26, 2008 at 10:30:52 Pacific
Reply:

It's funny how by means of coincedence we end up on the same place. I downloaded exactly that driver, but I have problems installing. My freshling installed Linux misses cc-compilers and all ...


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Response Number 3
Name: paulsep
Date: December 26, 2008 at 13:41:20 Pacific
Reply:

So simply install the compiler from your install disk and try again.
It's the same problem in Suse Linux.
The gcc or cc compiler and the libraries are not installed by default.
Maybe you also have to install the Kernel sources.

Check it out.


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Response Number 4
Name: tvc
Date: December 27, 2008 at 02:55:48 Pacific
Reply:

That makes much more sense indeed ... I have to install a lot of packages anyway (gcc and make and such), for other software. Most packages are on the installation disk, he just doesn't install them.

But a GCC is pretty basic, no ? Why doesn't "Linux" install this one by default ?


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Response Number 5
Name: paulsep
Date: December 27, 2008 at 04:51:09 Pacific
Reply:

Because of most users that are using Linux distributions, are beginners.
They are not able to install packages from the source code.
So why waste diskspace for things, most users never need.

Users with more knowledge do know, that some additional packages have to be installed, just like gcc, kernel source or whatever.


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Response Number 6
Name: tvc
Date: December 27, 2008 at 07:35:13 Pacific
Reply:

I understand, but from a beginner's viewpoint, they may think : nice, I've installed this OS, and can't do jack. In one way it is good : stupid Windows users will never like Linux. I'm OK with that.

Anyway; now facing "FATAL: Module fuse not found."

This should be easy ;)


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Response Number 7
Name: paulsep
Date: December 27, 2008 at 08:21:42 Pacific
Reply:

At the main page of http://www.ntfs-3g.org, read the section "Installation".


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Response Number 8
Name: tvc
Date: December 27, 2008 at 08:46:43 Pacific
Reply:

[root@GLinux ~]# mkdir /mnt/diska
[root@GLinux ~]# mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/diska
FATAL: Module fuse not found.
ntfs-3g-mount: fuse device is missing, try 'modprobe fuse' as root
[root@GLinux ~]# modprobe fuse
FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[root@GLinux ~]#


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Response Number 9
Name: paulsep
Date: December 27, 2008 at 11:33:58 Pacific
Reply:

In OpenSuSE you can simply install fuse from the installation cd.
Don't know whether it is the same in Red Hat.
Otherwise, search at http://www.rpmseek.com for fuse.


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Response Number 10
Name: tvc
Date: December 27, 2008 at 15:15:13 Pacific
Reply:

I have FUSE, but still the issue is the same


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Response Number 11
Name: paulsep
Date: December 27, 2008 at 15:29:45 Pacific
Reply:

Have you tried to check, whether you can enable fuse in kernel configuration (make menuconfig)?


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Response Number 12
Name: tvc
Date: December 28, 2008 at 02:02:32 Pacific
Reply:

make: *** no rule to make target 'menuconfig'. Stop.


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Response Number 13
Name: paulsep
Date: December 28, 2008 at 08:18:51 Pacific
Reply:

I guess you got a message like "Install recurses and try again" or something like that.
You indeed have to install ncurses from your install cd.


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Response Number 14
Name: paulsep
Date: December 28, 2008 at 08:34:34 Pacific
Reply:

FUSE for Red Hat

http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/...


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Response Number 15
Name: tvc
Date: December 28, 2008 at 09:02:52 Pacific
Reply:

FUSE for Red Hat
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/...

-> I found that site as well, and I actually got my RPM's from that very site:

fuse 2.7.3
fuse-ntfs-3g 1.2310
fuse-ntfs-3g-devel 1.2310

I guess these are the highest versions, the order in which the RPM's are listed, are quite chaotic

But that leaves me, as stated above, with the same error. The installation went OK though


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Response Number 16
Name: tvc
Date: December 28, 2008 at 09:06:56 Pacific
Reply:

I guess you got a message like "Install recurses and try again" or something like that.
You indeed have to install ncurses from your install cd.

-> I've done some research, and the issue looks to be like this:

For some reason, Red Hat is the only ditro that does not like NTFS, and they removed it from the kernel. So, everybody has got it (if you have the correct kernel version), apart from Red Hat users.

This would explain why the manpages list an option that is not available. (Work to do for Red Hat : do not only mess up the kernel, but also the man pages).

Well, we need to give some cerdit to Red Hat, it may all be wrong here ...

Please show me some reference to "ncurses". I can install thousands of RPM's, but I doubt that will solve anything.


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Response Number 17
Name: paulsep
Date: December 28, 2008 at 09:22:02 Pacific
Reply:

I didn't use Red Hat.
I tried it and went back to OpenSuSE.
The only thing I can say is, that in OpenSuSE, you can install ncurses directly from the installation cd.
All in all I can say, it was just easy to let OpenSuSE support NTFS.

However, you're using RedHat !

Have you also already read this website?
http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DO...


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Response Number 18
Name: tvc
Date: December 28, 2008 at 12:20:34 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the info

Well, at least they're honest. I didn't find that page, but I did pass by linux-ntfs.org already

I'll have another go with the ntfs-kernel RPM

It's a funny message though, by Red Hat


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Response Number 19
Name: tvc
Date: December 28, 2008 at 12:44:20 Pacific
Reply:

I already had kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.18-92.1.22.el5-2.1.27-0.rr.10.11

But still, mounting does not work:

FATAL: Module fuse not found.


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Response Number 20
Name: jefro
Date: January 4, 2009 at 09:55:50 Pacific
Reply:

If you want to just read and not write to the ntfs then re-read mount command.

I find it almost for sure the kernel supports it.

Try

$ cat /proc/filesystems

Look for ntfs.

If not you either need to add in ntfs or go the read/write ntfs3g way.

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