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Name: Chad
Date: October 16, 2002 at 07:50:52 Pacific
Subject: Linux Install monitor problem!!!!!!
OS: win98 mand 8.2
CPU/Ram: 333 / 320
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I am trying to load Linux Mandrake 8.2 as a second os on my p2 333mhz system. I have partitioned it with partition magic pro 7. The system has Win98 on it now. 4gig partition. Have 6gig for linux and 320 for swap. 27gig left over for later. KDE chose for setup. Any how Windows 98 is set up for 800x600 pixels at true color 32 bit and works fine on my old astvision 4I monitor using a trident 9680 pci video card. Now my Linux problem I incert the cd rom boot up the linux installation all the way to choose a monitor. I can read all of this fine. I tried selecting under ast my astvision 4I monitor and clicked ok; this is where all the trouble begins, the screen turns black and stays there no mater what. Some people told me to try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace but this does nothing. Somewhere on the screen before it goes black I think it said it would test for 10 seconds but that's not true it never leaves the black screen. So I shut it down and try again this time I set as 640x480 vga generic and same thing, gettin ticked off now. Trying again this time setup all over again also try custom, set monitor settings to
H Freq 31-35.5 "mine is 30-31.5" V Freq 70 hz. Video Card is recognized and set as 800x600 32 bit. and guess what? Black Screen Again!!!! Really ticked now!!! I try yet again this time can't find it skips video card setting and goes immediately to black screen after setting monitor. I didn't even get to choose setting. The monitor is in the setup! I found the video card at linux,
"Trident 9680 Mandrake 8.2 x86


Famille : Video card Module :
Kernel : 2.4.18-6mdk Module :
CD : Module : "
works fine in windows what the heck is wrong with it?????
I didn't download or copy it it's original disks with book!! The book doesn't help with this problem.

I restart without the disk and everything says [ OK ] beside it then get to login section,

Mandrake Linux relase 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586
Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk on an i686 / tty1
localhost login:

I enter my login: chad
Password:
I enter my password,

doesn't show it when I type or * or anything but then goes to this
[chad@localhost chad]$ _ cursor flashing.... what now?

Any Ideas???????? Anyone????????
Did I leave anything out?
Sorry it's so long but I wanted to be thorough.


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Response Number 1
Name: jerry
Date: October 16, 2002 at 12:19:16 Pacific
Subject: Linux Install monitor problem!!!!!!
Reply: (edit)

Ok, your on your way.

Here's whats happening.

ctrl-alt-backspace restarts your X server(windows).

The fact that you can log on is good. To start your xserver you do two things.

1) init 5

2) startx

Now, by typing startx will try and fire up your xserver, but if its not configured properly you will get some sort of error.

Now, the init 5 is similar to startx but it referes to your run level.

for ex. init 1 = single user mode
init 3 = is what you see now, just a black dos like screen.

init 5 = means at boot up your server will boot into kde(Xwindows) right away.

Now which to choose: startx or init 5?

In your case its best to use startx. Because when your having troubles configuring X, at run level 3 its easier to trouble shoot.

Now to configure X:

Type startx
(note its best to do this as root, therefore log in as root(root=administrator in windows))

If kde starts?, life is good.

If KDE does not start, then do the following:

type: Xconfigurator
This will allow you to configure X. A number of things can cause problems with X setup.
If your monitor or video card, or even mouse is not configure properly your X will not start.

So, sounds like you have been through this before, so go through the steps again, configure your monitor, video, test. If your screen remains black, then start over. You may have to try changing resolution,video ram,different types of monitors..etc to get it right.

If you still cannot get configured, try looking at you mouse settings.

There is a few utilities you can use. I don't use mandrake very much(I'm a redhat person), but most distro's have similar utilities.

Like:

setup

linuxconf

mouseconf or mouseconfig...

You'll have to see whats available to you. Just try typing the above in, see what happens.

Long story short, until you run Xconfigurator, and you see that popup window that says "DO you see this, click OK" X will not work.

hope this helps

jerry


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Response Number 2
Name: Chad
Date: October 16, 2002 at 16:40:36 Pacific
Subject: Linux Install monitor problem!!!!!!
Reply: (edit)

I have never been able to get it to finish setup without the screen going black.


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Response Number 3
Name: Richard
Date: October 17, 2002 at 00:44:44 Pacific
Subject: Linux Install monitor problem!!!!!!
Reply: (edit)

One of the advantages of buying a copy of Linux (apart from having the manual) is that you usually get support from the distributor. This is one case where I would use that support.

I don't know what Mandrake offer, whether telephon or email, but it is definitely worth investigating. You can also go to their website, where I believe they have support forums (like these, but (a) Mandrake specific, and (b) with Mandrake employees).


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Response Number 4
Name: johnb
Date: October 24, 2002 at 22:18:10 Pacific
Subject: Linux Install monitor problem!!!!!!
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just a hunch, i dont really know what im talking about...

might be worth chasing bios settings for low level video support. i was having similar problems because the bios wasnt set to support enough video frame buffer for the (on board) video card. ie it was set to 1mb when it should have been 8mb. windows worked fine, but linux gui refused to run. Perhaps your bios/vid card has a setting somewhere to do something similar?


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