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Name: canadianterrorist
Date: January 18, 2008 at 11:57:03 Pacific
Subject: linux and xp
OS: xp
CPU/Ram: intel 3/4 gig
Model/Manufacturer: Dell rebuilt dimenson 24
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ok can you run linux and win xp on the same computer if so h0w????

zack aka Sroonz


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Response Number 1
Name: arochester
Date: January 18, 2008 at 12:35:57 Pacific
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See "The definitive dual-booting guide:Linux, Vista and XP step-by-step" at http://apcmag.com/node/5162/


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Response Number 2
Name: canadianterrorist
Date: January 18, 2008 at 13:22:29 Pacific
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my computer wont down load the programs required in the directions

zack aka Sroonz


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: January 18, 2008 at 13:35:17 Pacific
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Response Number 4
Name: The_Oracle
Date: January 18, 2008 at 13:49:53 Pacific
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by far the easiest way (limited to the flavors of Ubuntu):

http://wubi-installer.org/


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Response Number 5
Name: jefro
Date: January 18, 2008 at 14:06:45 Pacific
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Since you ask I strongly suggest you consider a virtual machine such as Virtual PC or VMware.

If you attempt a dual boot I suspect you will be back asking how to fix it. A virtual machine even I can use and not screw up.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 6
Name: The_Oracle
Date: January 18, 2008 at 16:19:58 Pacific
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ummm ... installing Linux on MS Virtual PC? i don't think so :P

use VirtualBox or VMware if you're happy with virtualization.


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Response Number 7
Name: jefro
Date: January 18, 2008 at 19:45:32 Pacific
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We do at least have VM choices. Some work very well on newer systems. In fact they are considered to be at native speeds on some installs.

Hey, I use qemu all the time still but for easy VPC can't be beat.

What works of VPC.

http://vpc.visualwin.com/

From Paul Thurrott's site.

"But supporting Linux isn't just about providing native support for popular distributions. As part of its move toward supporting Linux, Microsoft will also provide 24-hour support for Linux distributions running under Virtual Server. Supported versions of Linux include Novell SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 and SuSE Linux 9.2/9.3/10.0, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1 (update 6), Enterprise Linux 3 (update 6), Enterprise Linux 4 and Red Hat Linux 7.3 and 9.0. Yep, we're in Bizarro World all right.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 8
Name: The_Oracle
Date: January 19, 2008 at 09:01:17 Pacific
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although ms virtual pc 2007 supposedly supports certain linux based server OS i never managed to get a desktop distro to work while VirtualBox runs literally any linux flavor under the sun. unlike it main competitors (vpc & vmware) it offers full USB support.

VirtualBox (for Windows, Linux and Mac OS hosts) has been released to the open source community little over a year ago and offers virtualization of the highest standard at the best price of them all.

http://www.virtualbox.org/


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Response Number 9
Name: canadianterrorist
Date: January 19, 2008 at 10:14:08 Pacific
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is there a way i could just insall linux on a memory stick and boot from it so that way i can just have xp on my hard drive? "how many gigs of memory would i need"

zack aka Sroonz


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Response Number 10
Name: tambes
Date: January 19, 2008 at 11:26:27 Pacific
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http://www.pendrivelinux.com/


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Response Number 11
Name: The_Oracle
Date: January 19, 2008 at 11:29:48 Pacific
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you can put ANY linux Live CD onto a bootable flash drive ... guides are legion.

but in order to get best performance you should install on your hard drive. have a closer look at WuBi (link posted in response #4).

download and run WuBi in windows XP. WuBi will retrieve and install the Ubuntu flavor of your choice onto your hard drive without having it partitioned (it will just reserve a certain amount of your free hard disk space). if you don't like it, simply go to add/remove programs in windows XP and get rid of it. can't get much easier.


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Response Number 12
Name: jefro
Date: January 19, 2008 at 15:07:54 Pacific
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You can run puppy or dsl on as low as a 64m usb.

I use qemu (a VM) and let it boot the live cd image from almost any W2K/XP machine. I keep a slow linux system in my pocket.

Faster would be any of the choices the people have offered. All have good points.

Be warned that some usb's are a bit difficult to get to boot and some bios are tricky. I think more of an advanced task that you should consider later.

Am trying wubi right now. Seems to be better than the first time I tried it so far.

Edit: didn't work.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 13
Name: The_Oracle
Date: January 20, 2008 at 02:31:49 Pacific
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jefro ... does your computer run the ubuntu live CD without problems? becuase WuBi is using the slightly different 'unattended' ISO


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Response Number 14
Name: jefro
Date: January 20, 2008 at 11:13:44 Pacific
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This rig is odd and set up oddly so I'd expect it to fail where others might work fine. I have a few test only computers that could be used but I have other stuff working on that now.

I'm sure I could get it to work. Didn't load the boot loader at first glance. Uninstalled it but did boot the alternate iso on VPC, since it is not live I didn't install it to a virtual drive.


I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 15
Name: mr_bigmouth_502
Date: January 20, 2008 at 13:54:12 Pacific
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What version of Ubuntu do you need in order to use Wubi?


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Response Number 16
Name: jefro
Date: January 20, 2008 at 16:00:24 Pacific
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Not sure you can use a pre-downloaded CD or image. It downloads for you.
"
What flavor of Ubuntu will I get?
Most flavors, including Ubuntu (default, with GNOME), Kubuntu (with KDE), Xubuntu (with XFCE for older computers), Edubuntu (good for schools and younger users) and UbuntuStudio (for multimedia workstations). Contact us if you would like your own flavor to be available for installation via Wubi.

What is the difference among the different Ubuntu flavors?
Mostly the graphical user interface is different, and the bundled applications may change so that they better integrate with the installed interface. More information can be found at the homepages for GNOME, KDE, and XFCE.
"

Wubi faq page
I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 17
Name: larryf215
Date: January 20, 2008 at 16:13:44 Pacific
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thanks for that wubi link oracle. does the copy the iso to the hard drive and run it from there, similar to the boot option on a knoppix cd? often wished more distros had that boot option.

larry


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Response Number 18
Name: The_Oracle
Date: January 21, 2008 at 07:14:21 Pacific
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it's been quite a while since i've been toying around with WuBi.

no, it doesn't just run the Live ISO from the hard drive in some virtual cd drive, you will get a fully fledged installation from within windows on a certain amount of reserved hard drive space which you're asked to specify in size prior to the installation, i think, the min. requirement is 10 GB. thus Wubi doesn't need any drive preparations and/or partitioning.

you don't NEED any version of Ubuntu, select the ubuntu flavor of your choice and Wubi will download the appropriate 'unattended' ISO and install it.

i'm pretty sure you can manually download the ISO you wish to install from any ubuntu download server (note: it's NOT the regular Live/Installation CD, it's called the "Alternate install CD") and place it it in the appropriate folder if you want to use WuBi on a computer w/o internet access.

for more info, read the FAQ on the Wubi homepage or check the Wubi thread in the ubuntu support forum.

http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdispla...


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Response Number 19
Name: canadianterrorist
Date: January 23, 2008 at 18:04:21 Pacific
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ok i got wubi but it dosnt run right "it wont install"

zack aka Sroonz


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Response Number 20
Name: jefro
Date: January 24, 2008 at 16:38:42 Pacific
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What does it say?

It is beta software.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 21
Name: canadianterrorist
Date: January 24, 2008 at 17:52:16 Pacific
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Windows based Ubuntu Installer has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.


yes i got it from : http://wubi-installer.org/

zack aka Sroonz


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